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Re: ET Hypothesis: Government Concern?

From: jared@valuserve.com (Andromeda.net- Anderson, Jared)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 01:50:04 -0700
Fwd Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 08:04:41 -0500
Subject: Re: ET Hypothesis: Government Concern?

> From: Henny van der Pluijm <hvdp@worldonline.nl>
> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 04:24:14 +0100 (MET)
> Fwd Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 22:49:06 -0500
> Subject: Re: ET Hypothesis: Government Concern?

> >Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 15:09:32 -0500
> >From: Peregrine Mendoza <101653.2205@compuserve.com> [Peter Brookesmith]
> >Subject: ET Hypothesis: Government Concern?
> >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>

> >The Duke of Mendoza present his compliments...

> >I'm not entirely surprised it's red, as (unless you know
> >something no one else does) the RBAF F-16s were chasing
> >monnbeams, or whatever, on 30/31 March 90, whereas van Utrecht

> >No need to repeat the date again, is there?
> >And the words 'may have been' are not quite the ones one would
> >use in "explaining" something "away", are they?

> >Note that only once (00.32hrs) while the F-16s were in the air
> >did both the Glons and Semmerzake radars simultaneously have a
> >contact with an "unknown" on the same heading (110 deg. 6NM
> >from Beauchevin, alt 6000ft). However, the control center at
> >Maastricht couldn't see this on radar. Likewise while the F-16s
> >were aloft, the highest speed of the OVNIs mentioned in the
> >RBAF report I have is 740kt, tho' some rapid accelerations
> >(eg 100 - 600kt between 00.39 and 00.41hrs) were noted.
> >And while the 't=E9moins au sol' kept seeing lights, the pilots
> >never made visual contact, and the ground reports of the
> >position of the lights seem not to match what was appearing
> >on the radars.

> >Someone has scribbled "brouillage" (confusion) in the margin of
> >this copy - which seems to me the best summary of the case so far.

> >Keep taking the pills, Henny. Or (te he) try eating dates.

> Duke,

> You can babble on as long as you like. I'll start eating pills
> against turning red and running out of breath by the mere
> thought of supersonic balloons (I'll be forever in your debt
> for that one).

I went to review the original report from Col W. De Brouwer after
James Easton posted his relevant excerpts from it in his previous
post. I thought I 'd post the report in it's entirety here
starting with the conclusions:

Source: http://members.tripod.com/~butwww/BelgUFOReport2.htm

Conclusions

12. The BELGIAN Airforce was unable to identify neither the nature
nor the origin of the phenomena. However, it had sufficient elements
to exclude following assumptions:
a. Balloons. Impossible due to the highly variable speeds (confirmed
visually and by radar).
b. ULM. Same as for balloons.
c. RPV. Impossible due to the hovering characteristics.
d. Aircraft (including Stealth). Same as for RPV. No noise.
e. Laser projections or Mirages. Unlikely due to lack of projection
surface (no clouds). Light spots have been observed from different
locations. Light spots moved over distance of more than 15 NM. Form
of inlighted part of spots has been observed with spectacles. Laser
projections or mirages can not be detected by radar.


SUMMARY REPORT ON OBSERVATIONS

Official report of Col W. De Brouwer - 30,31 March 1990


Background

1. Starting early Dec 89 the BAF has been contacted on several
occasions by eyewitnesses who observed strange phenomena in the
Belgian airspace. On some occassions they described the phenomena as
a triangle-shaped platform up to 200 feet wide with 3 downward
beaming projectors, hovering at +- 100 m above the ground and making
only a very light humming noise. Some witnesses saw the object
departing at very high speed after a very fast acceleration. All
observations were made in the evening or during the night.

2. The radarstations which had been alerted by eyewitnesses could
not definitely determine a correlation between the visual
observations and their detections on radar. On two occasions the BAF
scrambled 2 F16 during the evening hours.
a.On the first occasion the F16 arrived +- 1 hour after the visual
detection. Nothing was observed. b. On the second occassion, pilots
could identify a laser-beam projector on the ground. After
investigation it appeared however that the description of the
observations totally differed from previously described phenomena.

3. Consequently the Belgian Airforce, anxious to identify the origin
of the phenomena, authorised F16 scrambles if following conditions
were met: a. Visual observations on the ground confirmed by the
local police. b. Detection on radar.

Events

4. On 30 Mar 1990 at 23.00 Hr the Master Controller (MC) of the Air
Defence radar station of Glons received a phone call from a person
who declared to observe three independant blinking lights in the
sky, changing colours, with a much higher intensity than the lights
of the stars and forming a triangle. Meteo conditions were clear
sky, no clouds, light wind and a minor temperature inversion at 3000
Ft.

5. The MC in turn notified the police of WAVRE which confirmed the
sighting at +- 23 30 Hr. Meanwhile the MC had identified a radar
contact at about 8 NM North of the ground observation. The contact
moved slowely to the West at a speed of =- 25kts and an altitude of
10.000 Ft.

6. The ground observers reported 3 additional light spots which
moved gradually, with irregular speeds, towards the first set of
lights and forming a second triangle.

7. At 23.50 a second radar station, situated at +- 100 NM >from the
first, confirmed an identical contact at the same place of the radar
contact of Glons.

8. At 00.05 Hr 2 F16 were scrambled from BEAUVECHAIN airbase and
guided towards the radar contacts. A total of 9 interception
attempts have been made. At 6 occasions the pilots could establish a
lock-on with their air interception radar. Lock-on distances varried
between 5 and 8 NM. On all occasions targets varied speed and
altitude very quickly and break-locks occured after 10 to 60
seconds. Speeds varied between 150 and 1010 kts. At 3 occasions both
F16 registered simultaneous lock-ons with the same parameters. The 2
F16 were flying +- 2 NM apart. No visual contact could be
established by either of the F16 pilots.

9. The F16 flew 3 times through the observation field of the ground
observers. At the third passage the ground observers notified a
change in the behaviour of the light spots. The most luminous
started to blink very intensively while the other disappeared.
Consequently, the most luminous spot started to dim gradually.

10. Meanwhile the head of the police of WAVRE had alerted 4 other
police stations in the area. All four, seperated +- 10 NM from each
other, confirmed the visual observations. 11. The aircraft landed at
01.10 Hrs. The last visual observation was recorded at +- 01.30 Hrs.




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