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Re: ET Hypothesis: Government Concern?

From: Don Ledger <dledger@istar.ca>
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 15:14:43 +0100
Fwd Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 16:59:03 -0500
Subject: Re: ET Hypothesis: Government Concern?

> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 04:24:14 +0100 (MET)
> To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
> From: Henny van der Pluijm <hvdp@worldonline.nl>
> Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: ET Hypothesis: Government Concern?

> >Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 15:09:32 -0500
> >From: Peregrine Mendoza <101653.2205@compuserve.com> [Peter Brookesmith]
> >Subject: ET Hypothesis: Government Concern?
> >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>

> >The Duke of Mendoza present his compliments...

> >>Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 11:06:57 +0100 (MET)
> >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
> >>From: Henny van der Pluijm <hvdp@worldonline.nl>
> >>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: ET Hypothesis: Government Concern?

> >>I began to chuckle here at the mere thought of
> >>a triangular balloon that carries three lights and
> >>decides to evade F16's by changing course rapidly
> >>and in doing so passes through the sound barrier.
> >>My God, some balloon! [snip]

> >>By now my face has turned
> >>red and my heartbeat has gone up significantly.

> >I'm not entirely surprised it's red, as (unless you know
> >something no one else does) the RBAF F-16s were chasing
> >monnbeams, or whatever, on 30/31 March 90, whereas van Utrecht

> >>>conceded that 'some kind of unusual flying machine did manifest
> >>>itself over our country on two or three occasions' in November
> >>>and December 1989. The object 'may have been an experimental,
> >>>self-propelled balloon [...]

> >No need to repeat the date again, is there?
> >And the words 'may have been' are not quite the ones one would
> >use in "explaining" something "away", are they?

> >Note that only once (00.32hrs) while the F-16s were in the air
> >did both the Glons and Semmerzake radars simultaneously have a
> >contact with an "unknown" on the same heading (110 deg. 6NM
> >from Beauchevin, alt 6000ft). However, the control center at
> >Maastricht couldn't see this on radar. Likewise while the F-16s
> >were aloft, the highest speed of the OVNIs mentioned in the
> >RBAF report I have is 740kt, tho' some rapid accelerations
> >(eg 100 - 600kt between 00.39 and 00.41hrs) were noted.
> >And while the 't=E9moins au sol' kept seeing lights, the pilots
> >never made visual contact, and the ground reports of the
> >position of the lights seem not to match what was appearing
> >on the radars.

> >Someone has scribbled "brouillage" (confusion) in the margin of
> >this copy - which seems to me the best summary of the case so far.

> >Keep taking the pills, Henny. Or (te he) try eating dates.

> Duke,

> You can babble on as long as you like. I'll start eating pills
> against turning red and running out of breath by the mere
> thought of supersonic balloons (I'll be forever in your debt
> for that one).

> However, I urge you to take some black coffee for boosting
> your accuracy, as you seem to have missed that the
> highest recorded speed was 1010 knots. (For those outside
> the English language area, this is around 1900 km/hr).
> When we keep missing such signifant details, we
> could indeed get a little confused, he, Peregrine Prozac?

I couldn't resist interjecting here. 740 kt balloons or 850 mph!
That's supersonic at 6,000 feet. Anybody pushing that theory is
doing it meerly to pull somebody's chain. An forget radar
tracings. they are of no value anymore as proof. If we can evade
radar, they sure as hell can. Fiberglass yachts and homebuilt
aircraft regularly elude radar unless they take steps to make
themselves visible to it. Yachts with reflectors and homebuilts
with tinfoil.

You have every right to be busting a gut with laughter Henny.

Don Ledger

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