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Re: Witness Anonymity

From: Sean Jones <tedric@tedric.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 15:19:06 +0000
Fwd Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 10:15:33 -0500
Subject: Re: Witness Anonymity

>From: "Clark Hathaway" <earthwrk@doitnow.com>
>To: "UFO UpDates - Toronto" <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Witness Anonymity
>Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 18:42:15 -0700

Hi Clarke

>> >Another point I would like to make is that I have been successful
>> >at stopping an abduction event during it's beginning. It has
>> >occurred on a number of occasions.

>> Would you care to enlighten us as to how?

>> >Clarke Hathaway
>Here is my squeak as it were. <chuckle>

>There are a number of ingredients to this ... more than a few
>that would seem to the uninformed to be absolutely New Age.

New Age is an expression bandied about for when there is no label for
the "new" research/tools/experiments etc etc

> None
>of us embody the exact same experiences

No two finger prints are exactly the same either.

>so I believe that I would
>be engaging in guess work as to the actual components.

>Extremely important to these endeavors are heightened intuition
>with a bit of practical trust in it and an expanded sight or
>sense of awareness. Of paramount importance is the inner knowing
>that we each individually, create our own realities and thus are
>ultimately responsible for what happens to us.

Thats a pretty big statement, would it perhaps have been easier to say
We are who we chose to make ourselves?

>An understanding
>that collectively, it is all of us by general consensus, that
>create the overall general appearance of what surrounds us at any
>given time.

Hmm don't you mean the masses provide the mean average?

>Another part would be at least the beginning of
>ability to recognize when a belief system no longer serves


> and
>some control in changing it.
Scientology? A created religion?
>A study of alternative history is
>also helpful. There exist many old metaphysical works that at
>least (if not point) hint at who and what these denizens (grays)
>are. They make for fascinating reading.

What tomes are these you refer too?

>It is my considered opinion based upon my own considerable
>personal experience,

how do you judge "considerable"?

>that the majority of these visitations are
>psychic in nature. That is, the are occurring on a level of
>reality other than experiential third dimensional reality.

So you believe that it is really the mind that is abducted? Not the
whole body?

>Further, I believe the majority of abduction experiencers to be
>people who may be a bit more expanded in awareness than can be
>counted as the norm.

Does expansion by drugs count as well? <G>

>Since 1993 I have attended quite a few abduction experiencer
>support group meetings and have been afforded the opportunity of
>interviewing informally many more as I have made no secret
>publicly as to my experiences. Nearly each of these have shown a
>person that recognizes to varying degrees, an enhanced component
>of intuition within.

It is my experience that almost all women have a "intuition" and that
certainly has nothing what so ever to do with abductions.

>Further, each one has developed a level of
>trust in this component. Almost to the person, they each have the
>inner knowing that they are alive for some reason that has not
>come to full blown realization yet, but is yet important. Sadly,
>these components lend the subject all too often into an over
>emphasized aura of self importance and ego.

I'll have to ask John V if he has a bigger sense of ego.

>Thus, they become
>addicted to the attention that they receive from some quarters
>and are easily manipulated.

Thats your personal opinion I take it.

>On a more practical level, I would serve to remind that in the
>approaching forty (known and documented) years since this
>phenomena first came to light, there has not been a single
>incidence of one of these events being recorded by any media
>other than via hypnosis and after the fact.

Yeah its a damn shame aint it.

>I feel that the same
>sort of equipment monitored/operated by a small dedicated crew
>from a remote location would yield some enlightening results.
>Those to man this endeavor would of course be parapsychologists
>using various equipment at their disposal already proven in cases
>of Ghosts and Poltergeists.

Ah so instead of Ghost hunters you suggest "greys out for abducting"

>I would challenge the Budd Hopkins, John Macks and others who are
>claimed to be such paragons of research ... to set up the
>conditions whereby these events could be recorded while they are
>unfolding. I would hasten to add that anything less from them is

Again in your opinion.

>Many may consider my opinions of these pseudo
>researchers to be far too harsh.

I know one or two who would for certain.

> I stand my ground though when I
>state that it is my

When you say considered, how do you mean considered? Do you mean
considering the abduction phenomenom from your point of view or
something else entirely?

>opinion that each of these appear
>to me to be more interested in their own notoriety, pumped up
>sense of self importance as well as any monetary gain that can be
>derived than they are in the overall welfare of their subjects.

Again this is very much your own opinion.

>They are fools and they are dangerous.

Ditto above.

>None of them realize the
>potential harm that could and does come to these folks.

Actually I am pretty sure they have more of an idea than some I could

>Each of
>these pseudo researchers

Please define researcher by your standards then.

> serve to perpetuate the experiencer's
>role as that of a victim.

>Frankly, I find this sickening and deplorable.

>Kindest Regards,


At the end of all this message you still did'nt actually say how you
stopped an abduction from taking place.

        Are you a man or a mouse, come on squeek up!
                       Sean Jones
          reply to--sean@tedric.demon.co.uk
        Reasearch page --http://www.tedric.demon.co.uk/

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