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Re: Clark on Abductions 2/2

From: Dennis <dstacy@texas.net>
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:41:43 -0600 (CST)
Fwd Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 01:55:38 -0500
Subject: Re: Clark on Abductions 2/2

>From: clark@mn.frontiercomm.net [Jerome Clark]
>Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 17:11:05 PST
>To: updates@globalserve.net
>Subject: RE: UFO UpDate: Clark on Abductions 2/2

<Mucho snippo>

>Which reminds me.  As I recall, on part one of
>his posting, Duke asserted that nobody besides
>Sandy Larson had ever reported the bizarre detail
>of brain removal.  Not so.  It figures in other,
>extremely obscure abduction claims.  Of course:
>Ah! They got it from Sandy Larson. But of course
>if nobody else had reported it ... well, you get the

<More snippo>

>Jerry Clark

Let's forget labels for a minute like agnostic, advocate,
psychosociologist, critical, skeptical, etc. When someone says
"aliens took my brain out, rewired it, and put it back in without
so much as a trace," in MHO it seems that a lot of ground needs
to be thoroughly covered and dealt with in a rigorous fashion
before one arrives at a literal interpretation, ie, that alien
beings really *are* capable of such magical (if not downright
divine) feats.

Similarly, statements of missing fetuses. In those few cases of
same which have been investigated, absolutely no evidence for
same has surfaced.

It is perfectly reasonable, then, to question what abductees are
saying and to look for other explanations before taking such
accounts even remotely literally. If your stockbreaker were to
casually say something of an equally outrageous nature, but
outside a UFO context, I daresay that you'd probably start
looking around for a new broker.

If I read my Hufford right, for example, it seems to me he's
arguing for an old Hag experience -- not for the existence of an
actual Hag who sneaks into peoples' bedrooms at night. It seems
quite clear that there is an abduction experience, but why, if
we're going to be agnostics, accept descriptions of same as a
reflection of physical reality in the absence of corroborating

In fact, it would be quite interesting to see what would happen
if one were to hypnotise a couple of hundred of Old Hag


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