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Re: ETH &c

From: Bob Shell <76750.2717@compuserve.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 08:30:42 -0500
Fwd Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 09:59:22 -0500
Subject: Re: ETH &c

>From: Greg Sandow <gsandow@prodigy.net>
>To: "'UFO UpDates - Toronto'" <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: RE: UFO UpDate: Re: ETH &c
>Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 16:22:56 -0500

>As I may have remarked here before, it's funny that I keep
>rushing to Budd Hopkins's defense. In private -- to his face,
>that is -- I'm more likely to criticize him.

>However, some of the stuff I read here is simply out to lunch:

>> From: Boroimhe@aol.com [Jeff King]
>> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 20:23:21 -0500 (EST)
>> To: updates@globalserve.net
>> Subject: Re: ETH &c


>> Yes, Hopkins does make the same fundamental error as Mack- his
>> beliefs clearly influence how he reports and studies abduction
>> accounts, to the point of leading his subjects.  But don't take
>> my word for it, read Bullard's  The Sympathetic Ear, pages 66-67,
>> where he clearly describes Hopkins' status as the Typhoid Mary of
>> the hybrid baby motif.  Even one of Bullard's respondents
>> recognized this fact.  While Bullard concludes Hopkins' obvious
>> influence on such an important element in the abduction narrative
>> is relatively unimportant in evaluating the source of abduction
>> claims, I think reasonable people can disagree.

>Jeff, would you care to provide transcripts of Budd's sessions
>with abductees, in which you can show us how he leads them?

>Perhaps I have an advantage on you here, since I've sat in on
>some of these sessions, and haven't noticed any such thing. But
>there are plenty of samples in print, notably, just for instance
>-- and lengthily -- in "Connections," a book by the two abductees
>who call themselves Beth and Anna. I didn't notice any leading in
>those transcripts, but then, maybe you think I've been
>contaminated with typhoid myself.

>Your move.

>Greg Sandow

Greg,

I couldn't agree more.  While I disagree with many of Budd's
conclusions, I can't fault his research, and my impression is that
he bends over backwards not to lead his subjects.  Besides,
having learned to hypnotize people back in college, I know just
how hard it is to lead hypnotic subjects.

I think most people have gotten their ideas about hypnosis
and how it works from TV and bad movies and know very little
about the reality of it.

Bob




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