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Re: ETH &c

From: clark@mn.frontiercomm.net [Jerome Clark]
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:32:26 PST
Fwd Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 17:22:55 -0500
Subject: Re: ETH &c

> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:16:00 -0600 (CST)
> To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
> From: Dennis <dstacy@texas.net>
> Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: ETH &c

> >From: Greg Sandow <gsandow@prodigy.net>
> >To: "'UFO UpDates - Toronto'" <updates@globalserve.net>
> >Subject: RE: UFO UpDate: Re: ETH &c
> >Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 16:04:39 -0500

> Greg,

> I understand the above is tongue in cheek, but suppose all of us
> who think there must be a less than literal interpretation of
> abduction accounts were to concede abject defeat (not to mention
> intellectual poverty, perverse rhetorical tactics, and CIA/Sony
> connections, etc), what then? Let's assume Budd et al aren't
> asking leading questions one, but are only soliciting the
> objective truth. What then?

> Obviously, the godlike aliens, with their ability to scoop out
> human brain pans and determine (in)visibility at will, are in
> charge here, AND THERE IS NOTHING ANYONE CAN DO ABOUT IT. The
> aliens have won, they've taken over. It doesn't matter, and never
> will, in the ultimate scheme of things, that Menzel or Sagan, or
> you or I, J. Clark or the Duke, ever lived. Or that mainstream
> science as a whole never paid no mind. We're whupped, done,
> beaten, finished, dude, that's the end of it. We're high-grade
> cattle for the Zeti Reticulans, so why are we even bothering to
> discuss this stuff?

> If true, or only half true, I think everyone on this list owes
> the Air Force a hearty round of applause (and apology) for having
> covered up the truth as long as they have. I mean, if you had
> your choice between a planet in panic, but still ripe for the
> plucking, or a plucked planet that went about its daily business,
> which would you choose? At least in our ignorant bliss (of the
> fact that some 4 million Americans have already been abducted by
> Budd's last count, a number growing daily), some of us are still
> able to raise a family and hold down a job.

> Don't know about you, but there's not a day goes by but what I
> don't personally wake up every morning and first off thank the
> Air Force for a job well done. If Sony gets to siphon a few bucks
> off the top of the cost of coverup, that's fine with me. If
> movies like "Starship Troopers" and "Independence Day" are merely
> someone's idea of gradually introducing us to reality, that's
> fine, too, although I am curious as to why we Earthlings keep
> winning in the face of such omnipotent odds. Homo sapiens spin
> doctors, I can only presume.

> So we concede! You've won. We're all wrong and you're all right.
> Alien abductors with godlike powers, I mean, advanced technology,
> are here, "here, there, and everywhere," and peons like us are
> absolutely powerless to halt them -- despite what crazed patriots
> like Corso contend. You could be next! I just hope if you're
> abducted before I am that you don't turn Quisling on us.
> Remember: all that the diplomatic treaty with the aliens, signed
> in 1954 by President Eisenhower (after serious consultation with
> the members of MJ-12), requires is that you surrender your sperrm
> and social security number. *You don't have to collaborate.* Your
> privacy and other rights are protected by galactic treaty.
> Abductions are allowed only on weekends, between the hours of
> 1900 and 0300.

> If you feel your planetary rights have been violated, contact the
> nearest Secretary General of the United Nations. If he's been
> abducted, too, you're in deep do-do. How can you tell? If he
> denies being abducted, then he obviously has, and just doesn't
> want to go public with the admission. At the same time, if he
> says he *has* been abducted, then you'll know you're still on the
> right track. Since you can't lose either way, it's best to assume
> you have both been abducted repeatedly since childhood, at which
> time you were introduced to your present significant other, whom
> you would only encounter, thanks to alien intervention in the
> affairs of humans, many years later. If the details are vague and
> need to be recovered under hypnosis by a disinterested UFO
> hypnotist/researcher later, it may well be that you are suffering
> from episodes of missing time.

> In light of the above, I think it's rather churlish of you to
> complain about current movie ticket prices in the Big Apple.
> Given the alternative, I'd say it's a bargain at twice the price.
> And I'd go for the bucket of buttered popcorn and 24oz soda --
> the so-called "caloric killer" -- while I was at it. Hey, enjoy
> life while you can! Tomorrow you may be abducted.

> Dennis

Dennis, Greg, and list,

Beneath all the sarcasm below, Dennis touches on
a real point: the unsettling consequences of what a
real abduction phenomenon would be mean for
human beings.  Who but the reckless and thought-
less would want such a thing to be true? No wonder
the resistance, not just intellectual but emotional (as
we have seen in recent exchanges), to the idea.

Of course everything Dennis says is equally
applicable to the reality of intelligent, technologically
superior ET life as envisioned even by UFOphobic
SETIphiles.  Is it any wonder, on a level of
sheer existential terror, that they find it imperative
to keep ETs safely out there in deep space and
far, far from us, and to do everything in their power
to discourage serious scientific consideration of
the UFO phenomenon?

Greg had it exactly right: The Frank Drakes of
this world are frightened idiots.

Cheers,

Jerry Clark



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