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Re: Saucer Error Error

From: wlmss@peg.apc.org [Lawrie Williams]
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 06:56:43 +1000 (GMT+1000)
Fwd Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 22:25:47 -0500
Subject: Re: Saucer Error Error

> To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
> From: Mark Cashman <mcashman@ix.netcom.com>
> Subject: re: UFO UpDate: Re: Saucer Error Error
> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 14:25:36 -0800

>>  15.11 Hrs "Mantell here. Now I've got it! It's a disc,
>>  enormously large. Hard to say, could be 80 yards in diameter.
>>  Upper surface has a ring and a dome. Turning fantastically fast,
>>  apparently around a central vertical axis..."

> Actually, Lawrie, I wonder where you obtained this information,
> since none of it, so far as I know, has ever been documented by
> any official researchers.....

I got it from a book written in German and later published in
London. The author's acknowledgements reads like a who's who of
the best ufologists in the field. He seems to have obtained a
transcript from somewhere. In those days it was routine for many
radio operators to take notes. In the interest of consensus I
guess I'd better not say any more about the subject.

> I don't recall any reference which claimed the aircraft skin was
> peppered with small holes.

That information was posted on the internet in 1995 on the UFO-L
<UFO-L@PSUVM.PSU.EDU list run by Paul Carleton.

> From: clark@mn.frontiercomm.net [Jerome Clark]
> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 23:32:38 PST
> To: updates@globalserve.net
> Subject: RE: UFO UpDate: Re: Saucer Error Error

>  ..... Nearly everything Lawrie writes here is false.

Sorry I wasted your time.

>           ...... I am not, of course, accusing him of making it up
> himself, just of passing on some of the vast legendry surrounding
> this non-UFO case.

I hold liars in contempt too. I have no reason to believe the
stuff is wrong. The book is well presented with lots of detail.

> The Mantell case is complicated by the appearance of what apparently
> was a UFO over southwestern Ohio several hours after the crash.

The type of craft Mantell didn't really see was seen by many
others during that time period. I expect they were all weather
balloons, inversion layers or swamp gas.

> .....The object Mantell died chasing, however, was a
> Skyhook balloon launched from Camp Ripley, Minnesota.

ATIC said there were no skyhooks in the vicinity at the time. I
also wonder why an experienced pilot could not tell a ufo from a
weather balloon nor knew so little about anoxia. Occam is crying
out to tell us something here.

Kind regards to you all.

Lawrie "but they *do* move" Williams_________

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