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Re: ETH [Extra Terrestrial Hypothesis] &c

From: Sean Jones <tedric@tedric.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:55:06 +0000
Fwd Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:13:52 -0500
Subject: Re: ETH [Extra Terrestrial Hypothesis] &c


>Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 21:42:08 -0600 (CST)
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>From: Dennis <dstacy@texas.net>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: ETH [Extra Terrestrial Hypothesis] &c

><snip>

>>>Now very possibly, although statistically highly
>>>improbably, 4 million US citizens have been

>>>abducted. OK.
><snip>

<selective snipping>


>There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever, none, nada, zilch,
>that four million Americans have been abducted. There is not even
>a credible suggestion of same. It is a complete, total and utter
>fiction. (You see, now, Greg et al, why you ought to weigh in on
>the negative side on occasion.)

>That number comes from something known as the Roper Report, which
>is totally without any sort of substantiation whatsoever. It is a
>disservice to you personally to give it more than the time of
>day, and a greater disservice to the public at large to pass it
>around as if it had any meaning at all, let alone as if it were
>somehow proved. The number is a total charade and completely
>without foundation.

>If every ufologist in the world huffed and puffed to their
>hearts' content, and then huffed and puffed some more, they might
>be able to come up with a thousand abduction cases -- arguably
>half of which have never been investigated in any detail or depth
>whatsoever, if investigated at all. That is, they've simply been
>taken at face value.

>To argue, suggest, or believe otherwise is to seriously delude
>yourself. When it comes to the number four million, and the
>phrase "one in forty" in regard to abductions, be aware that they
>are one and the same, and equally and wholly without significance
>or meaning. Both are chimeras with a capital C, nothing more and
>nothing less.

>Anyone who says otherwise probably listens to Art Bell in their
>underwear and is itching for a fight.

>Dennis

 Dennis

When I had the occasion to chat to Budd Hopkins ( at some length
I might add) at the Fortean Times UNconvention this year he said
that he had personally over six hundred genuine cases on his
files.

Now if I remember correctly Budd has been doing his reseach into
abductions for a large number of years ( 20 plus) and it was his
first book that got a huge amount of people writing to him about
their cases, ( I dare say this is possibly how John Velez got in
contact with the man.)

What I mean to say that it was only his writing a book on the
subject that gave these people a person to speak to. If there
was no person to speak to then a lot of these people would
probably still be silent now and we would know nothing of their
cases. However Budd said that he believed that there were loads
of people that did not contact him (or any other researcher for
that matter ) simply because they did not want to accept what
was happening to them. He also said to me that he had no way of
knowing just how many people have been abducted but the figure
was frightening at any number.

Now if Budd has no *real* idea of the amount of people that have
been abducted then who has? So a speculation of "4 million"
could be way out OR an _under_ estimate.

Who Knows?

        Are you a man or a mouse, come on squeek up!
                       Sean Jones
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