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Re: ETH &c

From: "Serge Salvaille" <sergesa@connectmmic.net>
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:27:53 +0500
Fwd Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:37:41 -0500
Subject: Re: ETH &c

>From: DevereuxP@aol.com [Paul Devereux]
>Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 23:51:39 -0500 (EST)
>To: updates@globalserve.net
>Subject: ETH &c

Dear Paul,

You wrote,

>I think the problems in your reply here, and the prevailing ones
>I have seen on this strand, are two unquestioned assumptions:
>a)Ufology is a subject, and (b)it involves ET craft and the ETH.

>This really points up what I have been saying elsewhere on this
>list, that the ETH is so overweaning, is such a dominant paradigm,
>that it has become an automatic reflex - an *invisible assumption*.

>In truth, ufology is not a subject as such (it is a loose bag of
>bits - a little good, much indifferent, more bad) and mainstream
>science could not possibly deal with it as if it were. Secondly,
>most of what is written in ufology isn't up to the standards of
>mainstream scientific scholarship in any case, and would get
>rejected on those grounds alone. You cannot blame science for
>keeping most of ufology at bargepole length, quite honestly.  The
>third point is that there is plenty of material out there in the
>scientific literature on aspects of ufology if one is not
>assuming that UFO=ET.

I have a formation in Biology, Environmental Sciences and
Computers.  I hate to be told I am un-scientific in my
assumptions. I find very amusing what could be termed the
"appropriation syndrome".  Much as you see a child playing in
sand grabbing his toys when someone threatens to even touch them,
SOME "scientists" do the same with Science.

This reaction to insecurity doesn't change the reality though:
nobody owns Science.

Science is an attitude.  A scientist should be someone who
pratices science.  Don't mistake this with a fellowship or a
title or a job.  Science starts with the study of facts.  Not the
rebutal of them.

The expression "Scientific fact" is a pleonasm.  A fact is a
fact. Sorry for  "mainstream science" (allow me a giggle here)
which is always pleased to throw the later like a glove at the
face of a yokel.  This attitude mimics the Victorian times: none
dared to talk about sex.  Did it mean nobody got horny ?

As a spokesman for "mainstream science" you can surely answer the
following questions: when was the last study on the views of
"mainstream science" towards UFOs and the extraterrestrial
hypothesis? Who did it? What were the questions? What were the

Serge Salvaille

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