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Re: ETH [Extra Terrestrial Hypothesis] &c

From: John Koopmans <john.koopmans@sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 20:39:56 -0800
Fwd Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 09:34:52 -0500
Subject: Re: ETH [Extra Terrestrial Hypothesis] &c

> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 05:27:42 -0600
> To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
> From: Michael Christol <mchristo@mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: ETH [Extra Terrestrial Hypothesis] &c

> >From: clark@mn.frontiercomm.net [Jerome Clark]
> >Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:59:46 PST
> >To: updates@globalserve.net
> >Subject: RE: UFO UpDate: Re: ETH [Extra Terrestrial Hypothesis] &c

> >Bob,

> >If you're not endorsing John Keel's half-baked ideas,
> >you ought not to be using his vocabulary.  Keel explicitly
> >endorses occult and demonological notions which no
> >post-Enlightenment thinker would find of any utility
> >whatever in trying to make sense of what the UFO
> >phenomenon is about.  As I said, nobody endorses
> >the use of theory-driven words (whether ET or ultra-
> >terrestrial) in anything other than hypothesis-driven
> >discourse.  In any case, I would not equate scientific
> >speculation about the possible nature of ET life with
> >medieval speculation about demons, unless one
> >believes late 20th century science is in no significant
> >manner different from 12th century theology.

> >Jerry Clark

> Jerry...

> Unfortunately John Kep's ideas are not thought of as "half-baked"
> by the average "religious" person in this country.  I can't speak
> for the rest of the world, but in this country, the primary
> explaination for "UFOs" and their "alien" occupants is indeed
> "demonic." Remember, a couple of months ago when "Pat Robertson"
> came out on his 700 Club and announced that UFOS were Demonic in
> nature and anyone who professed to Investigate them or believe in
> them were guilty of blasphamy and should be stoned to death?
> Well, unfortunately, this man speaks with the same tongue as the
> orthodox religionist.

> Now, I am not by any means saying ALL religions and their
> followers profess this doctrine, but many do. Having a background
> in the Baptist religion, I know how many of the people I work and
> associate with feel about UFOs.

> Just thought I would add to the conversation, Jerry.
> Remember, not everyone believes the scientific doctrine.

> REgards, Mike

I might also add that those who have experienced some of the
things John Keel talks about and have seen such things as
"phantom" UFOs have a lot more respect for Keel's theories than
some of the "half-baked" theories some of the so-called UFO
scientists put out.

There's more to life than science can presently explain.

John K.

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