From: John Koopmans <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 20:39:56 -0800 Fwd Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 09:34:52 -0500 Subject: Re: ETH [Extra Terrestrial Hypothesis] &c > Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 05:27:42 -0600 > To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <email@example.com> > From: Michael Christol <firstname.lastname@example.org> > Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: ETH [Extra Terrestrial Hypothesis] &c > >From: email@example.com [Jerome Clark] > >Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:59:46 PST > >To: firstname.lastname@example.org > >Subject: RE: UFO UpDate: Re: ETH [Extra Terrestrial Hypothesis] &c > >Bob, > >If you're not endorsing John Keel's half-baked ideas, > >you ought not to be using his vocabulary. Keel explicitly > >endorses occult and demonological notions which no > >post-Enlightenment thinker would find of any utility > >whatever in trying to make sense of what the UFO > >phenomenon is about. As I said, nobody endorses > >the use of theory-driven words (whether ET or ultra- > >terrestrial) in anything other than hypothesis-driven > >discourse. In any case, I would not equate scientific > >speculation about the possible nature of ET life with > >medieval speculation about demons, unless one > >believes late 20th century science is in no significant > >manner different from 12th century theology. > >Jerry Clark > Jerry... > Unfortunately John Kep's ideas are not thought of as "half-baked" > by the average "religious" person in this country. I can't speak > for the rest of the world, but in this country, the primary > explaination for "UFOs" and their "alien" occupants is indeed > "demonic." Remember, a couple of months ago when "Pat Robertson" > came out on his 700 Club and announced that UFOS were Demonic in > nature and anyone who professed to Investigate them or believe in > them were guilty of blasphamy and should be stoned to death? > Well, unfortunately, this man speaks with the same tongue as the > orthodox religionist. > Now, I am not by any means saying ALL religions and their > followers profess this doctrine, but many do. Having a background > in the Baptist religion, I know how many of the people I work and > associate with feel about UFOs. > Just thought I would add to the conversation, Jerry. > Remember, not everyone believes the scientific doctrine. > REgards, Mike I might also add that those who have experienced some of the things John Keel talks about and have seen such things as "phantom" UFOs have a lot more respect for Keel's theories than some of the "half-baked" theories some of the so-called UFO scientists put out. There's more to life than science can presently explain. John K.
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