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Re: MAGONIA ETH Bulletin #4

From: bruce maccabee <brumac@compuserve.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 23:22:27 -0400
Fwd Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 13:24:35 -0400
Subject: Re: MAGONIA ETH Bulletin #4

>From: Greg Sandow <gsandow@prodigy.net>
>To: "'UFO UpDates - Toronto'" <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: RE: UFO UpDate: Re: MAGONIA ETH Bulletin #4
>Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:04:24 -0400

>> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:54:09 -0400
>> From: bruce maccabee <brumac@compuserve.com>
>> Subject: UFO UpDate: Re: MAGONIA ETH Bulletin #4
>> To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>

>> In the Washington DC area there is a nighttime talk show which
>> had one of the UFO panel members on (Jay Melosh of U of
>> Arizona). He is a "hard nosed" skeptic. I just happened to hear
>> the beginning of the show as I was riding in my car. When I got
>> to my office (work late) I called in and was able to speak
>> with/debate Melosh. It just so happened that the talk show host,
>> Chip Franklin, had me on his show a year ago to talk about my
>> book UFOS ARE REAL- HERE'S THE PROOF (Ed Walters and Bruce
>> Maccabee, Avon paperback,. $6.00 cheap. ....shameless plug)...

>> Franklin, although skeptical, did not write me off as he might
>> have most. Hence, when I got on the air in the latter half of
>> the show and did not have time to complete some
>> statements/thoughts I was expressing, he invited me to stay over
>> for a "few minutes" the next hour (which was essentially an open
>> hour in his program). SAo many people called in that I ended up.
>> on his show for the whole hour following Melosh, discussing.,
>> etc., and fielding questions from the audience. (One man w.ho
>> called in said he was 13 years old near Mt. Kisco New Yor...arge
>>.any of their neighbors.)

>Glad to know you got in your licks!

>But I'm most curious about Melosh. Clearly, the steering
>committee of this new UFO study leaned toward the unusual in
>science, with the likes of David Pritchard, Hal Puthoff, and
>Robert Jahn on it.>.

>So it's the review panel that's most important -- the scientists
>who reviewed the data that the steering committee helped
>assemble. Melosh was a member. I'm glad to know he's skeptical,
>because I'm glad to konw there were skeptics on it.>

>What did he say on the radio? What part of the new report did he
>stress? Did he dissent from any of it? I'm eager to know what
>impact this report will have on scientists, and the feelings of a
>skeptic who was involved in it might be an early sign of where
>this is going.>

>Greg Sandow

I did not hear the whole show, only th first few minutes and
then the last 20 or so when I was on. From what I did hear it
was clear that Melosh wouldn't bite the UFO bullet without
having a bullet - i.e., hardware - to bite. In other words, he
didn't believe that any of the sightings he heard about were
evidence of anything beyond our physics, although he admitted
that some of the sightings were "puzzling." As I recall, Mr
Franklin asked specifically about several of the cases that
Melosh couldn't explain. Melosh did agree that the subject
deserves more serious study, although he did point out that
young scientists trying to build up their credibility probably
shouldn't get involved because of the "giggle factor" (not a
term he used). Generally speaking h did not, so fa as I coul
tell, dispute the published report in any way.