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Re: 'She Blinded Me with Science'

From: RobIrving@aol.com
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 23:04:53 EDT
Fwd Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:40:36 -0400
Subject: Re: 'She Blinded Me with Science'


>To: "UFO UpDates - Toronto" <updates@globalserve.net>
>From: "Jerome Clark" <jkclark@frontiernet.net>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: 'She Blinded Me with Science'
>Date: Fri, 10 Jul 98 11:56:02 PDT

Jerry,

>I thought we were talking about is Festinger's involvement in
>the study of prophetic saucer groups. I have little interest in
>Festinger beyond When Prophecy Fails, not only because it deals
>with a subject of concern to me but also because I have a good
>friend who's a scholar in this area, and who told me long ago
>that Festinger's ideas have been challenged.

There's a problem with your characterisation. As far as I am
aware, Festinger never conducted any "study of prophetic saucer
groups". When Prophesy Fails was derived from a much more
complex idea. If you were to describe the work that simply in
print I'd be appalled.

>My impression all along has been that you are using Festinger
>simply as a stick with which to beat all who are interested in
>UFOs, and I do not recall your even responding to my complaint
>that you lump everybody together. So let me try one more time:

I gave it the attention it deserved.

>See my words immediately above. In any event, I don't see any
>lessons for, or parallels to, ufology in Festinger's book, which
>isn't about ufology at all. It's about a saucerian group
>oriented toward the contactee message and occult doctrine. The
>fact that you seem to think this is the same as ufology only
>confirms, alas, my suspicions about your approach.

You use the word 'fact' all too loosely, Jerry. In fact your
impression is quite wrong, of both WPF (did you read the
introduction?) and me.

Rob