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Re: Bormann Demystifies Gemini 7 UFO Myth

From: Kari Valimaa - Suomen Ufotutkijat ry. <suomen.ufotutkijat@kolumbus.fi>
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 23:09:29 +0300
Fwd Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:03:35 -0400
Subject: Re:  Bormann Demystifies Gemini 7 UFO Myth


>From: Stig_Agermose@online.pol.dk
>To: updates@globalserve.net
>Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 00:45:37 +0200
>Subject: Astronaut Frank Bormann Demystifies Gemini 7 UFO Myth

>Excerpt from an article "Flying the Gusmobile" about the Gemini
>missions. Published on the site of "Air and Space" magazine
>July 14.

>URL:

>http://www.airspacemag.com:80/ASM/Mag/Index/1998/AS/ftgm.html

>Stig

><snip>

Borman said that the bogey was their booster, but was it? The
conversation which took place between Gemini 7 and the ground
control at Houston (Condon Report pp. 207) reveals that
astronauts saw both the booster and the bogey at the same time.
So it is impossible that the booster was the bogey.

The following conversation took place between the spacecraft and
the ground control at Houston:

Spacecraft:    Gemini 7 here, Houston how do you read?

Capcom:        Loud and clear. 7, go ahead.

Spacecraft:    Bogey at 10 o’clock high.

Capcom:        This is Houston. Say again 7.

Spacecraft:    Said we have a bogey at 10 o’clock high.

Capcom:        Roger. Gemini 7, is that the booster or is that
               an actual sighting?

Spacecraft:    We have several, looks like debris up here.
               Actual sighting.

Capcom:        You have any more information? Estimate distance
               or size?

Spacecraft:    We also have the booster in sight.

Capcom:        Understand you also have the booster in sight,
               Roger.

Spacecraft:    Yea, we have a very, very many look like hundreds
               of little particles banked on the left out about 3
               to 7 miles.

Capcom:        Understand you have many small particles going by
               on the left. At what distance?

Spacecraft:    Oh about it looks like a path of the vehicle at
               90 degrees.

Capcom:        Roger, understand that they are about 3 to 4
               miles away.

Spacecraft:    They are passed now they are in polar orbit.

Capcom:        Roger, understand they were about 3 to 4 miles
               away.

Spacecraft:    That’s what it appeared like. That’s roger.

Capcom:        Were these particles in addition to the booster
               and the bogey at 10 o’clock high?

Spacecraft:    Roger Spacecraft (Lovell) I have the booster on
               my side, it’s a brilliant body in the sun, against
               a black background with trillions of particles on
               it.

Capcom:        Roger. What direction is it from you?
Spacecraft:    It’s about at my 2 o’clock position. (Lovell)
Capcom:        Does that mean that it’s ahead of you?
Spacecraft:    It’s ahead of us at 2 o’clock, slowly tumbling.


This mention is also from Condon Report, pp 207-208):

The general reconstruction of the sighting based on the above
conversation is that in addition to the booster travelling in an
orbit similar to that of the spacecraft there was another bright
object (bogey) together with many illuminated particles. It
might be conjectured that the bogey and the particles were
fragments from the launching of Gemini 7, but this is impossible
if they were travelling in a polar orbit as they appeared to the
astronauts to be doing.

Source: Condon, Edward (ed.), The Scientific Study of UFOs
(Bantam Press, 1969)

Kari Valimaa
kariv@usa.net