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Re: Bormann Demystifies Gemini 7 UFO Myth

From: Stig_Agermose@online.pol.dk
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 06:11:23 +0200
Fwd Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:30:09 -0400
Subject: Re: Bormann Demystifies Gemini 7 UFO Myth

>Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:10:13 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
>From: Nick Balaskas <nikolaos@YorkU.CA>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Bormann Demystifies Gemini 7 UFO Myth

>>From: Stig_Agermose@online.pol.dk >>To:
updates@globalserve.net >>Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 00:45:37 +0200
>>Subject: Astronaut Frank Bormann Demystifies Gemini 7 UFO Myth


>>At almost twice the length of Gemini 5, Commander Frank
>>Borman's Gemini 7 mission may have been even more trying, but
>>it grabbed the attention of at least one Hollywood producer.

>>"Right after we got into orbit we were supposed to "station
>>keep' or fly formation with the booster," Borman says. "We were
>>flying formation and taking photographs and infrared
>>measurements and I started calling it a "bogey,' which is an old
>>fighter pilot term. Well, a lot of the UFO freaks on the ground
>>picked this up and said we had seen a UFO because we had
>>referred to our booster as a bogey. Just this past year I got a
>>call from a producer at "Unsolved Mysteries" and they said, "We
>>read your account about your seeing a UFO on Gemini 7 and would
>>you come on the program?' I told them: "I'd love to come on your
>>program because I'd love to straighten that out.' I explained
>>what it was I saw and I said, "I don't think there were UFOs,'
>>and the producer said, "Well, I'm not sure we want you on the
>>program.' "


>Seems to me that Frank Borman's recollection is in conflict with
>what his fellow Gemini 7 astronaut, James Lovell, is quoted in
>saying during the actual space mission.  James Lovell you may
>recall was later the Commander of Apollo 8 which made the first
>manned flight to the Moon in December 1968.  On that mission
>James Lovell is also quoted as saying "Please be informed that
>there is a Santa Claus"...

>We find the following dialogue from the web site below.


>Lovell:  Bogey at 10 o'clock.

>Capcom:  This is Houston. Say again 7.

>Lovell:  Said we have a bogey at 10 o'clock high.

>Capcom:  Gemini 7, is that the booster or is that an actual
>         sighting?

>Lovell:  We have several...actual sightings.

>Capcom:  ...estimated distance or size?

>Lovell:  We also have the booster in sight...

>Maybe the producer of "Unsolved Mysteries" should have contacted
>James Lovell instead of Frank Borman regarding this bogey.

>There is also a photograph with two ball shaped UFOs (possibly
>reflections from a window since one would expect these UFOs to
>be centered in the picture if one was taking a photo of them)
>which is credited to Frank Borman at this same web site.

>Can someone account for the dialogue with James Lovell and/or
>UFO picture by Frank Borman?

>Nick Balaskas



The source isn't specified.



   FILE: UFO616

NASA.txt - This document is a compilation of material relating
to NASA and sightings by astronauts of UFO's. The material
contained herein is not of an original nature but can be found
in the sources listed at the end of the text. There has been
much discussion on astronaut sightings in the echos. To help
stimulate this and get us all up to speed on the topic I thought
it would be informative to collect all the available material
into one file. I have attempted to collect the facts and present
the opinions both pro and con concerning each incident. I have
only listed sources for which I have actual copies in my
possession. If you know of other sources not listed here which
specifically relate to NASA encounters, please let me know. Your
assistance is appreciated.


GEMINI VII  December 4, 1965  (Frank Borman, James Lovell)

During this flight Borman describes what he calls a "bogey at
ten o'clock high" The object was slowly tumbling and was at
first thought to be their booster rocket. But this was ruled out
when the astronauts also saw the booster simultaneously with the


Lovell is reported to have taken some magnificent photographs of
two mushroom shaped UFO's on December 4. The pictures seem to
show the glow of a propulsion system on the underside. The
pictures were taken at a range of several hundred yards. Some
believe this picture to be a blatant forgery accomplished by
airbrushing a picture of light reflecting off the nose of the