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Re: Meier Pictures

From: Don Ecker <decker@ufomag.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:41:31 -0700
Fwd Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 13:17:09 -0400
Subject: Re: Meier Pictures

>From: The Duke of Mendoza - Peter Brookesmith <DarkSecretPB@compuserve.com>
>Subject: Meier Pictures
>Sender: The Duke of Mendoza <DarkSecretPB@compuserve.com>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>

>Couldn't resist this one. That above is true except that

>(a) a crucial difference is the .223 is a jacketed round, while
>.22 Long Rifle is a bare lead bullet (though it may be copper

That is correct. I have fired thousands of rounds of both types.
Plus the fact that the .223 (or 5.56 mm velocity is about 3200
feet per second from the barrel of an M 16 rifle. The .22
caliber LR round out of a standard .22 caliber rifle is a bit of
1000 feet per second.

>.22 WMR is a jacketed round, however, and is deadly - it
>actually carries more kinetic energy than a .45 Colt ACP, and is
>the preferred pistol round for Mossad terminators:

Dear Duke.... wrong and wrong. I carried and used a .45 ACP for
years both in the U.S. Army and while a police officer. The
standard .45 ACP (it means Automatic Colt Pistol) round is a 234
Grn. jacketed slug. Standard velocity is around 870 feet per
second. Maxium range (not effective range, although even at this
I would not wish to be hit even at this range) is 1,500 meters.
EFFECTIVE Range is between 50 and 60 meters depending on the
skill of the operator. I have hit targets at 100 meters with a
.45 ACP however. If you use "controlled expansion ammunition
then everything goes out the window. Winchester has made a round
called the "silvertip" which imparts awsome wound
characteristics. It is in the range of 185 Grns. weight.

The Mossad used a .22 caliber weapon for "executive actions",
but it was a Berreta (sp?) in a .22 caliber SHORT. But back to
the reason I wrote this, the idea of comparing a .22 WMR to a
.45 ACP as carrying more kinetic energy is just patently
ridiculous. Kind of like comparing a small stone to a huge block
of granite.Don (love that .45 ACP) Ecker Been there,  and DONE

-- Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong
   conclusion with confidence.

Don Ecker
UFO Magazine