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Re: Meier Pictures

From: Don Ecker <decker@ufomag.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:07:08 -0700
Fwd Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:58:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Meier Pictures


>Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:31:33 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
>From: Nick Balaskas <nikolaos@YorkU.CA>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Meier Pictures

>>Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 21:03:29 -0400
>>From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac@compuserve.com>
>>Subject: UFO UpDate: Kinetic Energy Bullets
>>To: updates@globalserve.net

>>>Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:41:31 -0700
>>>From: Don Ecker <decker@ufomag.com>
>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Meier Pictures

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>>Don't forget that the definition of "kinetic energy" is the
>>product of the mass times the velocity squared. If I knew the
>>speed and mass of the .22 WNR I could calculate its K.E. and
>>compare with the 45 (234 grain, 870 ft/sec; KE = 234 x 870^2 =
>>177,114,600 in the appropriate units.

>Bruce, looks like you also forgot the definition of kinetic
>energy (the energy of moving objects).  It is equal to the mass
>times the velocity squared divided by 2.  As a result, your
>value above is twice as large as it should be.

>Of course, if a given mass is totally converted into energy,
>then the energy obtained is the product of the mass time the
>velocity of light squared (Einstein's mass-energy formula).

>Nick

Gentlemen;

Let us not forget what we are referencing. The kinetic energy of
a .45 ACP 234 Grn. projectile in comparison to a .22 WMR
projectile. Neither a .45 nor a .22 will be totally converted
into energy. This is a bit simpler than that. Brooksmith
suggested that a .22 caliber bullet will deliver, weighing
between 45 to perhaps 60 Grns. traveling around 1000 to perhaps
1150 fps., depending on the loading, will give more energy to
the target than a .45 ACP, weighing between 185 Grns. lower end,
to 234 Grns. upper end. The velocity from a 185 Grn. "hollow
point" or controlled expansion projectile, around 1000 feet per
second, or the heavier 234 Grn. round at about 870 feet per
second. You can play with the math, but real experience taught
me that if I have to be shot, and I have no option, use the .22
over the .45 PLEASE!!

Don Ecker

--
Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with
confidence.
Don Ecker
UFO Magazine
www.ufomagazine.com


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