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Re: Meier Pictures

From: Mendoza, Duke Peter Brookesmith <DarkSecretPB@compuserve.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 19:29:17 -0400
Fwd Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:31:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Meier Pictures

Compliments of the Duke:

>Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:41:31 -0700
>From: Don Ecker <decker@ufomag.com>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Meier Pictures

>The Mossad used a .22 caliber weapon for "executive actions",
>but it was a Berreta (sp?) in a .22 caliber SHORT.

My informants beg to differ, and I wouldn't trust a .22 Short to
do such dirty work; and I don't think Beretta made a pistol in
that calibre (not that Mossad wouldn't be able to order a
special, of course). But I have moles burrowing to double check.
It was certainly my understanding that Gerald Bull, designer of
the Iraqui "supergun", exited this life thanks to the .22WMR.

>But back to
>the reason I wrote this, the idea of comparing a .22 WMR to a
>.45 ACP as carrying more kinetic energy is just patently
>ridiculous. Kind of like comparing a small stone to a huge block
>of granite.

Not entirely. Compare these ammo specs:

CCI +V     .22WMR   40gr  2000ft/sec  355ft/lb
Federal    .22WMR   50gr  1650ft/sec  302ft/lb

Winchester .45ACP  185gr   775ft/sec  245ft/lb
Winchester .45ACP  210gr   710ft/sec  235ft/lb
Winchester .45ACP  230gr   850ft/sec  410ft/lb

The last .45 is a military hardball, and comparable to the load
Don described, which I calculate gives about 392ft/lbs at the
muzzle or only about 10% more kinetic energy than the CCI +V
above. The CCI .22WMR is a hollowpoint, so the effect is grim.
But, as wise men say, I'd rather be missed by a .22 than hit by a

In the late 70s I was involved in testing various transparent
plastics for an Italian company who had had several of their top
executives' relatives kidnapped for ransom. They wanted nice safe
new windows. We pumped every pistol bullet/load combo we could
find at this stuff at various ranges. The ones that penetrated
deepest (none went through) were Eley HV .22LR and a Federal
.22WMR, both solid points.

The way to defeat bullet-proof "glass" today would, of course, be
to use a large catapult or small siege engine firing a
well-trussed Gray, which would have no trouble passing through,
and would frighten those behind it at very least into a catatonic
trance. The only question then would be who abducted the victim
first - the Gray or the would-be ransomers.

Fascinating as these technical data are, I'm still waiting to
hear from the Meier Fan Club whether their favorite prophet &
guru reported the so-called "assassination attempt", involving a
crashed .22in-diameter lead UFO (there's your answer ;-) John),
to the local plod.

Pachmayr D. Mannlicher
Wedge Gripper