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Re: Area 51 Still Operational

From: Gary Alevy <galevy@pipeline.com>
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 10:33:06 -0400
Fwd Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 10:55:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Area 51 Still Operational

>From: "Steven Kaeser" <steve@konsulting.com>
>To: "UFO UpDates - Toronto" <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Area 51 Still Operational
>Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 07:32:59 -0400

>>From: KRandle993@aol.com [Kevin Randle]
>>Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:26:41 EDT
>>To: updates@globalserve.net
>>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Area 51 Still Operational


>>The Scoutmaster case is from August 1952. The Air Force explained
>>it as a hoax. Given the scoutmaster's history of spinning tall
>>tales, had been discharged from the Marines in 1944 under less
>>than honorable conditions (during the height of WWII, what does
>>that tell you about the guy?) and there was no independent
>>corroboration for the sighting if you looked carefully at the
>>statements of the boy scouts who were there. All the physical
>>evidence was explainable with the exception of the burnt roots of
>>the grass samples. But, since the chain of custody was broken,
>>that might not be important.

>>Nearly everyone in the UFO fields realizes that this case is a
>>hoax. Please notice I said nearly everyone.



>I would note that in 1952 the military labeled just about every
>case a "hoax", "Venus", "air inversions", or "misidentification
>of birds or aircraft". Indeed, this may have been the correct
>explanation for many unknowns, but the military was obviously
>trying to put a "spin" on this subject and not really trying to
>get the truth to the public. In July of that year the military
>had to deal with the Washington DC sightings that showed
>military leaders the impact of the public's intense interest and
>how it could disrupt communication lines. Indeed, this was the
>year that the military grew to fear the impact of the public's
>reaction more than the "unknowns" themselves. Given it's
>behavior over the years, I would tend to take anything the
>military issued in a public statement about UFOs with a very
>large "grain of salt".

>Secondly, the fact that he left the marines under less than
>honorable circumstances was not exactly unusual. Without
>details, this may or may not be relevant to his being an
>honorable person, and (again) the "spin" on this facet of his
>life comes from the military's release of information, as are
>the allegations of his "spinning tall tales".

>On the other hand, he was a Scoutmaster. This means that a
>sponsoring organization (most like a church) thought enough of
>his character to assign him the task of helping to guide older
>boys as they become young men. This is not a guarantee of good
>character, but generally tends to be a reasonable indicator. As
>I recall, it was after his alleged sighting that his life began
>to fall apart, and I would suggest that there are few who have
>had a serious "sighting" that haven't suffered some sort of
>paradigm shift in their "reality". I would suspect that many of
>us have flaws in our character that we've learned to control as
>we go through our daily routines. It wouldn't surprise me if an
>encounter with something completely unknown or frightening had
>the effect of bringing those "flaws" to the surface.


The name of the scoutmaster in question was Sonny Desverges.
This case was discussed within the past 6 months on a television
documentary broadcast on a television station in New York City.

If I recall correctly, one of the participants on this list,
Karl Pflock was also featured on this documentary in regards to
his personal investigation of the "Florida Scoutmaster" case,
which was so named by Ruppelt.

Curiously none of the locals, still living in the same locale,
had anything negative to saw about the scoutmaster.  They seemed
to indicate that he had been railroaded by the military in the
investigation of the UFO sighting.

I have a question for Kevin.  Where was the chain of custody
lost in the ground trace evidence of the Scoutmaster case?  I
have seen no mention of this in the literature, could you please
cite the appropriate references.


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