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Re: Roswell Photos Clears Air Force General

From: "Stanton T. Friedman" <fsphys@brunnet.net>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 09:29:43 -0300
Fwd Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 10:14:53 -0400
Subject: Re: Roswell Photos Clears Air Force General

> From: Robert Todd <RTodd12191@aol.com>
> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 13:01:32 EDT
> To: updates@globalserve.net
> Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Roswell Photos Clears Air Force General


> After I furnished Prof. Moore with the July 9, 1947 article from
> the RDR, he went to the University of New Mexico microfilm
> archive in Albuquerque where he read and copied all of the
> flying saucer and related stories from early June, 1947 until
> September from most of the New Mexico papers. Incidentally, the
> July 8 RDR article does _not_ say the debris was discovered
> "last week," as might be assumed from Mr. Friedman's statement.
> So certainly Prof. Moore cannot be accused of examining only a
> "selective choice of data."

> I am always amused by Friedman's accusation of "selective choice
> of data . . . ."  Where conflicting stories exist, it is
> impossible not to choose data. Mr. Friedman himself does it, and
> so does Mr. Randle. Obviously, all the claims cannot be true.
> Mr. Friedman's use of that pithy little phrase essentially is
> nonsense intended to dismiss information that conflicts with
> what he believes, or pretends to believe about the Roswell case.

> I furnished Prof. Moore with the article from the Roswell Daily
> Record that contained Mac Brazel's descriptions of the Roswell
> debris, which, not incidentally, jibe with the descriptions the
> other witnesses gave of the same debris. Except, of course, that
> Roswell promoters like Messrs. Randle and Friedman contend that
> Mac Brazel was lying, and the balsa wood wasn't balsa wood, and
> the aluminum foil wasn't aluminum foil, and the debris had those
> magical alien properties that made it indestructible.

> Long ago I recognized the futility of debating the subject of
> Roswell. I have tried, as best I can, to avoid the debate. I
> would not have involved myself with the debate on the UFO
> Updates list had Mr. Kaeser not implied that Prof. Moore either
> was a fool or a co-conspirator in the alleged "Cosmic
> Watergate." Mr. Randle's most recent attempt at deceiving the
> UFO Updates list members was close by, and was relatively easy
> to debunk, so I did. I'm sure this won't stop Mr. Randle from
> raising the issue yet again at some future date, and claiming it
> proves the pilots at Roswell Army Air Field knew all about the
> "Mogul balloons."


> If either Mr. Randle or Mr. Friedman chooses to respond to this
> posting, he'll get a free ride in that they can say anything
> they like, because I don't plan on reading their responses, let
> alone responding to them. I've had more than my fill of Roswell.
> They may resume their misinforming, disinforming, and lying.
> I've got more important things to do. For me, the Roswell
> incident is "CASE CLOSED." Like Prof. Moore, I have nothing
> more to say on the case.

> Robert Todd

The first three July 8, 1947, front page Roswell related
articles which I picked up all include the line "the public
information officer of the Roswell Army Air Field announced the
find had been made "sometime last week". These were the Spokane
Daily Chronicle, The Sacramento Bee, and the Chicago Daily News..
Obviously when the original wire service story went out, there
were calls to Roswell and more details were added throughout the

I certainly wish to thank Bob Todd for making it clear that C.B.
Moore hadn't been aware of other details than those in the July 9
article. But of course there were other details in The Roswell
Incident and in a host of papers..

I repeat: Berliner and I had cordial meetings with Moore and
Duke. In our discussions later it was clear that the 2 had only
limited knowledge of the events and descriptions. Anybody who
wants my free 5 page review of Captain McAndrew's CASE CLOSED
volume can send an SASE to me at

POB 958, Houlton,
ME 04730-0958

Stan Friedman

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