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Re: Roswell Photos Clears Air Force General

From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 12:03:49 EDT
Fwd Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 12:49:03 -0400
Subject: Re: Roswell Photos Clears Air Force General


>From: Robert Todd <RTodd12191@aol.com>
>Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 13:01:32 EDT
>To: updates@globalserve.net
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Roswell Photos Clears Air Force General


>> Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 08:32:41 -0300
>> From: Stanton T. Friedman <fsphys@brunnet.net>
>> To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>> Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Roswell Photos Clears Air Force General

>> > From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com>
>> > Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 15:48:21 EDT
>> > To: updates@globalserve.net
>> > Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Roswell Photos Clears Air Force General

>> > >From: Robert Todd <RTodd12191@aol.com>
>> > >Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:58:39 EDT
> >> >To: updates@globalserve.net
> >> >Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Roswell Photos Clears Air Force General

<snip>

> Long ago I recognized the futility of debating the subject of
>Roswell. I have tried, as best I can, to avoid the debate. I
>would not have involved myself with the debate on the UFO
>Updates list had Mr. Kaeser not implied that Prof. Moore either
>was a fool or a co-conspirator in the alleged "Cosmic
>Watergate." Mr. Randle's most recent attempt at deceiving the
>UFO Updates list members was close by, and was relatively easy
>to debunk, so I did. I'm sure this won't stop Mr. Randle from
>raising the issue yet again at some future date, and claiming it
>proves the pilots at Roswell Army Air Field knew all about the
>"Mogul balloons."

My point was that a CAA requirement did exist. My point was that
Mogul wasn't all that secret, though the purpose behind the project
was. Todd said they "didn't get legal" until September which means
they were in violation of the rules that had been set down.

Charles Moore told me that a number of the NYU team had gone
to Roswell in June to enlist their aid in tracking and recovering their
balloons but the officers had no time for a bunch of "college boys."

In other words, even if the NYU team did not issue the required
NOTAM until September, members of the team had still gone to
Roswell BEFORE the events of July 4, in an attempt to enlist
aid. There were men at Roswell who know about the balloon
launchings.

More importantly, the launchings were of common weather
balloons and radar targets. There was nothing classified about
the equipment. It would have been recognizable to anyone who
saw it... not meaning they could say, this is a rawin target, but
could realize that it was something terrestrial, as happened in
Circleville, Ohio early in July.

The Mogul arrays also carried a card asking for the return of the
material... Oh, that's right, all the flights had the card EXCEPT
No. 4 because it was the first.

Besides, it wasn't necessary for all the pilots at Roswell to know
about the Mogul flights, which is not what I said. I was suggesting
that a mechanism existed to provide that data to the pilots. Moore
confirmed communication with Roswell prior to the launchings.

> This is, for me, my last posting regarding Roswell. I am
> satisfied that the explanation for the case can be found in the
> materials that were being flown by New York University in
> support of Project Mogul. Messrs. Randle and Friedman will never
> agree with this explanation, and almost certainly will continue
>to deceive the public in their writings about the case. They
>both have misinformed, disinformed and lied outright about the
>case a number of times in the past, with Mr. Randle's most
>recent example being his posting to this list concerning the
>supposed requirement that notification of "Mogul balloon"
>flights be reported in the NOTAMs. While notifications were
>necessary _eventually_, it wasn't until _after_ the Roswell
>incident had already occurred.

>If either Mr. Randle or Mr. Friedman chooses to respond to this
>posting, he'll get a free ride in that they can say anything
>they like, because I don't plan on reading their responses, let
>alone responding to them. I've had more than my fill of Roswell.
>They may resume their misinforming, disinforming, and lying.
>I've got more important things to do. For me, the Roswell
>incident is "CASE CLOSED." Like Prof. Moore, I have nothing
>more to say on the case.

> Robert Todd

Please note that neither Stan nor I reduced our arguments here to
name calling. Please note that we couldn't be disinforming
because that refers to government action. Please note that Prof.
Moore can't be a disinterested third party any more because he
had published a book on the topic and has taken a public stand.

KRandle


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