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Re: The Ten Cases

From: Mark Cashman <mcashman@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 23:43:29 -0400
Fwd Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:17:15 -0400
Subject: Re: The Ten Cases

>From: RobIrving@aol.com
>Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 10:50:42 EDT
>To: updates@globalserve.net
>Subject: UFO UpDate: Re: The Ten Cases [was Re: Occam's Razor and UFOs]

>>From: Mark Cashman <mcashman@ix.netcom.com>
>>Subject: UFO UpDate: The Ten Cases [was Re: Occam's Razor and UFOs]
>>Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 03:05:01 -0400
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>

>The thing that stands out is how old these cases are, the latest
>a mere 28 years ago. I'm not implying anything by that, but it
>does seem strange considering all the razzmatazz we currently

Personally, I like cases that last. Yes, there are good,
credible, well investigated recent cases - or so it seems. In 10
years some of those may fall by the wayside, others will

What surprises me about the rest of your comments is that you
are apparently not familiar with these cases. Yes, there are a
couple which are obscure, such as Vancouver Isl, and the White
Sands case, but the rest of these have been cited in major
references (Vallee, Hill, etc.), and some are classics.

>Anyway, out of all of these cases what is the most compelling
>physical evidence available? Did any of these witnesses produce
>photographs, or report physiological effects that were confirmed
>later by doctors, etc?

>Or are they purely witness accounts? If that's the case, why are
>these accounts more compelling to you than, say, a CSETI lights-
>fest, resulting in a "near-landing" of a "metallic structured

You see, this is why 10 cases are a futile exercise. The
question was, which cases are the most suggestive of ETI? ETI is
suggested by structured objects, unconventional performance,
escape velocity, vertical departure to high altitude, non-human
beings, unusual physics, and unconventional interest in
humanity. These cases present that sort of material.

As I mentioned, cases which prove OEH (UFOs are objectively
existent) are not necessarily the same cases which suggest ETI.

>Re. 4... sounds interesting. Can you or anyone forward more

This is one of the most famous and important vehicle
interference cases ever. It can be found in any reference on
UFOs. I'd recommend The UFO Evidence, though I imagine Jerry has
a section on it as well.

Basic information is available at


>Re. 5... 'PA Photo' What does this mean? That the image
>eventually ended up with the PA library? Where can I get easy
>access to this image... do you have a scan of it that you can
>send for me to see?

This image was the cover of the original edition of John
Fuller's Incident At Exeter. It was investigated by NICAP, the
local newspaper, and Fuller.

The image is featured in my paper on UFO luminosity at


However, the best quality copy of the image of which I am aware
is the Look special on UFOs from 1966. The image on the web site
is a moderate quality scan from that reference.

>Re. 8... What exactly did the witnesses report the beings as

The basics of the case are at


Hilary Evans forwarded me the material he had on the case.

BTW, this case and the Moreland case are two exemplars of the
classification which Richard Hall is calling Dyad. I have a
section on that type of case in my correlated catalog at


Personally, I find the Moreland case fascinating from the point
of view of understanding UFO luminosity, also, because of the
clear description and sequence of events provided by the
witness, wife of a RNZAF officer.

>See what I'm getting at here? Even the hokiest stories have a
>way of being the most persistent...

I'm not really impressed if you are trying to suggest that these
fundamental cases are in the same category.

>> 9.	Sample gathering- Valensole, 1965, 1 witness

>Excuse my ignorance - but wasn't that the French farmer with, if
>I recall correctly, the lavender field; an early crop circle
>case? That relevant book on the shelf over there is way out of
>reach, so I may be wrong on this.

No, it's not a crop circle case, but the lavender field part is
correct, and traces were found (a hole, and a moistened area of
ground which became very hard, according to Vallee).

Mark Cashman, creator of The Temporal Doorway at
- Original digital art, writing, and UFO research -
Author of SF novels available at...

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