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Re: Occam's Razor and UFOs

From: Mark Cashman <mcashman@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:34:50 -0400
Fwd Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 17:12:45 -0400
Subject: Re: Occam's Razor and UFOs

>From: RobIrving@aol.com
>Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:13:24 EDT
>To: updates@globalserve.net
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Occam's Razor and UFOs

> In popular cultural terms, Greg, the subjects I mentioned are as
> much a part of the so-called ETH, if not more, than, say, the
> rather obscure witness reports offered by Mark Cashman as his
> ten best examples, which much less people are apparently aware
> of.

This seems clearly to show Rob, that you are focused on popular
culture while knowing little about UFOs. Of the ten cases I
cited, at least 5 are classics, cited in multiple references.
Kelly-Hopkinsville is one of the most well known occupant cases,
Levelland the exemplar EM case. Marignane has been referenced
several times, as has Loch Raven Dam and Valensole.

ETH isn't part of popular culture. Ideas about ETs are. ETH is a
hypothesis and is part of the scientific investigation of
possible causes for UFO reports.

You can't shift the base from considering the actual cases that
lead to consideration of ETH (and which helped stimulate the
interest in ETI among the public) to merely considering popular
culture in a vacuum. Some of these cases were key in establishing
the possibility of ETI for the public, though, not being aware of
their fame, you would be unaware of their role.

Trying to attribute interest in ETI and acceptance of it as a
popular explanation for UFOs to popular culture is placing the
cart in primacy to the horse. Serious cases such as those listed
and many others have had a profound impact on the willingness of
the public to consider ETH.

Perhaps you didn't realize that in the 1940s, ETH was not even in
the running as a theory for UFOs, as far as the public was
concerned. It was only cases like those I listed, which became
famous in the press, that caused the change in opinion.

> All I'm saying here, as Rebecca said earlier, is that if ETH
> proponents want to be taken seriously, maybe by way of increased
> awareness of the subject through popular culture, as I think you
> are suggesting, it would be a good idea to create some distance
> from the fools and hucksters.

The truth is that ETH is far more accepted by the public as a
theory of UFO report causation than any other. This despite the
lack of credibility of the charlatans and the hucksters. Jerry
can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the public at large
wouldn't know Sims and Leir from any other two guys, or Greer if
he appeared in a puff of green smoke and waving lights. The
modern charlatans just don't get the press of Adamski and the old
contactees. They do, however, generate a lot of heat in the "UFO
community", which is where they get most of their attention.

I think public awareness and acceptance of ETI comes down in
large part to the following factors:

1) Well-known cases suggestive of ETH.

2) MHH proponents, especially the AF, being unable to
   successfully explain important cases, and making general
   fools of themselves with clearly contrived "explanations".

In short, the public uses Occam's Razor a bit themselves.

Mark Cashman, creator of The Temporal Doorway at
- Original digital art, writing, and UFO research -
Author of SF novels available at...

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