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Re: The Ten Cases

From: RobIrving@aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:16:32 EDT
Fwd Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 18:14:28 -0400
Subject: Re: The Ten Cases

>  Subject: UFO UpDate: Re: The Ten Cases
>  From: Mark Cashman <mcashman@ix.netcom.com>
>  Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 23:43:29 -0400
>  To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>

Mark,

Thanks for the info, I'll check it out.

>  You see, this is why 10 cases are a futile exercise. The
>  question was, which cases are the most suggestive of ETI? ETI is
>  suggested by structured objects, unconventional performance,
>  escape velocity, vertical departure to high altitude, non-human
>  beings, unusual physics, and unconventional interest in
>  humanity. These cases present that sort of material.

Fair enough, as long as one remains aware of our tendency to
impose order, meaning and therefore value on what we see; ie
'escape' velocity... escape being a rather subjective term.

>  As I mentioned, cases which prove OEH (UFOs are objectively
>  existent) are not necessarily the same cases which suggest ETI.

Of course.

>  >See what I'm getting at here? Even the hokiest stories have a
>  >way of being the most persistent...

>  I'm not really impressed if you are trying to suggest that these
>  fundamental cases are in the same category.

It was a general comment. As I'm not as au fait with specific
cases I'm not in a position to judge, not that I'm that prone to
judge specific cases. I tend to shrug my shoulders a lot when I
hear stories.

>  No, it's not a crop circle case, but the lavender field part is
>  correct, and traces were found (a hole, and a moistened area of
>  ground which became very hard, according to Vallee).

Yeah, I remember reading about this. On what basis do you include
it in your 'ten best' - because of the physical evidence? Also,
what were the results of the samples gathering, or was it the ETs
taking samples? If the latter, do you include this purely on the
basis of the farmer's story?

Having extensive experience of the conclusions people reach from
'field' research, so to speak, you'll appreciate my scepticism.
Once I saw some iron filings miraculously transmogrify into
'meteoric dust', just because a scientist said it was so.  Jerry
was amazed when I told him.

Rob



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