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Re: Occam's Razor and UFOs

From: Greg Sandow <gsandow@prodigy.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 08:19:58 -0400
Fwd Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 20:03:20 -0400
Subject: Re: Occam's Razor and UFOs


> From: Jean-Luc Rivera <PSaintc798@aol.com>
> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:42:20 EDT
> To: updates@globalserve.net
> Subject: Re:  UFO UpDate: Re: Occam's Razor and UFOs

> >From: "Greg Sandow" <gsandow@prodigy.net>
> >To: "'UFO UpDates - Toronto'" <updates@globalserve.net>
> >Subject: RE: UFO UpDate: Re: Occam's Razor and UFOs
> >Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 18:45:41 -0400

> <snip>

> >If the PH is valid it implies that the UFO is most widespread in
> >countries which share social and economic conditions, and have
> >similar cultural values. As the UFO phenomenon seems most
> >widespread in the USA we would expect it to be experienced most
> >often in similar societies. This does seem to be the case.

<snip>

> >We would expect the UFO phenomena to be least widespread in
> >those societies which either do not share this social
> >background, or are actually hostile to it, e.g. the Islamic
> >countries, most of Africa, Asia (except Japan), and this is
> >indeed the case. This is not, of course, to say that no UFO
> >reports at all come from those countries.

> We don't know how widespread the UFO phenomenon is in these
> parts of the world: the lack of investigators or just of
> channels to receive the reports maybe the reason of the absence
> or quasi-absence. In Malaysia, thanks to the work of Ahmad
> Jamaludin, we have learned of the existence of UFO waves which
> would have gone unreported otherwise.

> Furthermore the works of Bertrand Meheust (in Algeria and Gabon)
> and Thierry Pinvidic (in Algeria) published in France show that
> the UFO phenomenon exists in different cultures and apparently
> awaits to be reported. These 2 french researchers cannot be
> suspected of deep ETH bias in their investigations as the list
> members not familiar with french ufology must know that they are
> supporters of the PH.

<etc>

Jean-Luc, it's wonderful to see you posting here!

I want to clarify one thing. The statements Jean-Luc discusses
are by John Rimmer. I quoted them in my reply to Rimmer's post.

Jan-Luc has told me several times that Americans aren't well
enough aware of UFO research around the world, and apparently
that's true of British researchers as well.

John Rimmer thinks he and his colleagues are on the road to
validiating the PSH. I suggested that they've left some major
assumptions unexamined in their work, the biggest being that a
(supposed) lack of UFO reports from non-western counties is due
to a lack of UFO sightings, not the lack of a developed UFO
reporting system.


Jean-Luc, while making a similar point, also shows that UFO
reports -- in numbers Rimmer doesn't seem to know about -- <can>
be found outside the west. Rimmer and his associates need,
perhaps, to examine not only their assumptions, but their
research.

Greg Sandow



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