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Re: Memory

From: Cathy Johnson <cej@idirect.ca>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 22:12:56 -0400
Fwd Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 22:50:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Memory

>Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:09:41 -0500
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
>Subject: Was: Asking Pamela Stonebrooke, Now: Memory

Dear John,

Thank you for pointing out that this conversation had indeed
strayed considerably.

>The original post in this series (which appears to have gotten
>lost in the shuffle) was directed to Pamela Stonebrooke and
>related to some specific questions about her statements. If you
>look at the mess in the attribution headers you'll see that
>Pamela herself has not responded or maybe not had an oportunity
>to respond.

You are right. Skye and I simply fell off in the deep end and I
am in the process of discovering that I cannot swim.

>As for the comments being made about 'memory.' This series of
>posts has served to illustrate the point that I made in my
>response to Skye. Many people are confusing purely 'mental' (or
>to use their own jargon,) "spiritual/astral" experiences with
>actual-real time- physical events.

You bring up a major point in that no one dares to segregate
channelling from actual abductions and contacts. The brown bag
of UFOology does have some curious contents, doesn't it.

>No-one anywhere is trying to differentiate between those who
>claim to have-memories of actual events- and all the other stuff
>that people are -calling- "abduction memories."

How do we fit in, John? I know we both have our sides to tell,
whether it be real or not. How do we tell the difference? Both
of us are so bent on telling our own side of the story that we
are willing to do all kinds of things to offer up our own proof.
Yet, it is proof that no one will listen to. Have we made any
impact with our honest sincerety? Is there really anyone out
there listening to people like us? Does their knowing of our
story help anyone?

Yes John, there are lots of people like us. There just as many
stories as there are people with experiences floating around.
And some of them have equalled, if not surpassed your own
efforts to confirm and validate truth as you know it. But, what
did it get you for all of that trouble? I can only hope it was
your money's worth. As for me, I didn't have that much money to
spare. Nor did I go to such lengths to try to prove myself or my
experiences to anyone. My fault about that, sorry.

I am not trying to provoke you in any way. I only hope that we
can work together to ask questions that need answers, have
needed answers for more than fifty years. How does all of this
affect us? How does it make any difference to us knowing what we
do? If all of the greatest minds of the world have failed to
fathom our perplexion, how are we supposed to?

All this talk about memories, about mental processes and so on
are only part of intangeable sciences. There is so much more to
learn, to discover, if only by listening to the tales we tell.

Take care for now,
Cathy Johnson

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