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Re: Who is Jerome Clark?

From: Stanton T. Friedman <fsphys@brunnet.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 20:17:16 -0300
Fwd Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 21:51:56 -0400
Subject: Re: Who is Jerome Clark?

>Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 09:06:41 -0400
>From: The Duke of Mendoza <101653.2205@compuserve.com>[Peter Brookesmith]
>Subject: Who is Jerome Clark?
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>

>>To: "UFO UpDates - Toronto" <updates@globalserve.net>
>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net>
>>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Who Is Jerome Clark?
>[was: Corso, Stacy & Birnes]
>>Date: Thu, 11 Jun 98 20:51:56 PDT

>Congratulations on a masterly demonstration of smoke-blowing,

>It struck me that Jerome might welcome this opportunity to comment
>on Klass's version of events, and so purge himself of the suspicion
>that he too has believed an "anything" or two in his time, even if
>one a good deal dafter than the notion that Kenneth Arnold saw

>In responding, Jerome then - despite having had his inexactitude
>very recently tweaked a bit by yours truly - rashly repeated his
>favorite factoid about Klass & communism. I suppose I was supposed
>to let this pass by in meekness and reverence? Having made the
>provocation, Jerome can hardly complain that his time is being
>taken up in unpaid toil in trying to obfuscate everything.


>>I guess I am cover up artist as well


>>But not all ufologists dispute official pronouncements. And of
>between them and conspiracy addicts, though I fail to see the
>difference in Keyhoe's or Friedman's cases), I contend, and repeat
>that I contend, is real.

>For the third time of asking: if we knew - if I knew - the names of

>>I refer readers to Brad Sparks' extended treatment of the case
>>in The UFO Encyclopedia, Volume 2, pp. 761-90, for an eye-

>Finally, I might address a question raised earlier in Jerome's

>I can also join up the dots between that, the misrepresentation of
>Klass's remarks about cover-up fans and Soviet agents, and the

>Jerry, please answer the questions. If you'd done that
>unambiguously, or at all, in the first place, you'd have had so
>much more time to catch up on your deadline.

Thank you, Duke, for  demonstrating all 4 of Friedman's laws for
Debunkrs, even if you only paraphrased #3 If you can't attack
the people, attack the data. 1.What the public doesn't know , I
am not going to tell them. 2. Don't bother me with the facts,my
mind is made up; and 4. Do your research by proclamation, not
investigation. It is much easier.

Peter ,you really have gone off the deep end by calling me a
conspriacy addict. : Conspiracy: "a joining secretly with others
for an evil purpose". Addict: "person addicted to something
harmful"..I don't see how being addicted to the truth and to
facts (that nasty word again) is harmful. Try it sometime. I
essentially never use the term conspiracy. My 21pg, paper "UFOs:
Earth's Cosmic Watergate" uses it not at all., However, it
contains a number of quotes from important documents proving
that agencies of the US government are witholding UFO
information. Has a lot of facts, though I guess , from the lack
of facts in your lengthy ramblings, you prefer to avoid them .I
guess I am a coverup artist too.. this coming from a man whose
ratio of blather to facts is astronomical. Incidentally, you
might also enjoy my paper "Flying Saucers, Noisy Negativists ,
and Truth:". Klass is one of the star performers. With disdain
for debunkers,

Stan Friedman

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