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Elaine Douglas on John Ford [was: Ford Fund?]

From: Elaine M Douglass <elaine26@juno.com> 
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 00:28:48 EDT
Fwd Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 01:14:44 -0400
Subject: Elaine Douglas on John Ford [was: Ford Fund?]

>Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 02:10:52 -0500
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Ford Fund?

>>To: updates@globalserve.net
>>Subject: Re: Ford Fund?
>>From: Elaine M Douglass elaine26@juno.com
>>Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 02:40:40 EDT

>>>From: Alfred Lehmberg <Lehmberg@snowhill.com>
>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>>Date: Sun, 14 Jun 98 14:56:18 +500
>>>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Ford Fund?

>>>>To: updates@globalserve.net
>>>>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Ford Fund?
>>>>From: Elaine M Douglass <elaine26@juno.com>
>>>>Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:18:08 EDT

>>>>>From: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>>>>Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 10:09:37 -0400
>>>>>Fwd Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 10:09:37 -0400
>>>>>Subject: Ford Fund?

>>>>>In view of the interest in the John Ford case on UFO UpDates I'm
>>>>>re-posting the following. I don't know if the E-Mail addresses
>>>>>still work - I've Cc:'ed the interested parties.



>>>>Saturday June 13, 1998

>>>>Dear UFO UpDates-Toronto:

>>>>You must have received this message in a time capsule. It is out
>>>>of date. As you can see, the date on Don Jernigan's message is

>>>I'm annoyed that that you seem to imply a shelf life for justice and
>>>fair play.

>>>Your light tone suggests that you have changed _your_ mind regarding
>>>John's guilt or innocence...why! I think you owe me an explanation.
>>>I think you owe us _all_ an explanation!

>>>>John Ford is no longer in jail. He is in a mental hospital in
>>>>New York state. Mr. Jernigan is no longer trying to raise money
>>>>for John's legal expenses, nor am I, nor any other members of
>>>>the now-defunct John Ford Defense Committee.

>>>>Best regards,

>>>>Elaine Douglass

>>>Ms. Douglass, you wrote a very impassioned paper that got _me_
>>>all stirred up. Subsequently, your tune has changed . . . you
>>>now _buy_ the radium in the toothpaste foolishness?

>>>With respect, madam, _you_ started this fire. Your casual
>>>efforts to put it out _now_ only increases my suspicion, anger,
>>>and sense of outrage.

>>>With friends like you, it would seem, John Ford needs NO



>>Dear Alfred et al.:

>>Your fuses are too short.

>>My message contained simply facts, no opinions.

>>You read into things, not a good policy.

>>I expended countless hours on the John Ford dilemma, you just
>>tuned in. Took a lot of guff for my trouble, seems that hasn't

>>I do not know what to do to gain freedom for John Ford.

>>Elaine Douglass

>Hello Elaine, hi All,

>You have had access to much more information on the case than we
>have. It's not important to air anymore of Johns' laundry in a
>public forum either. Don't feel as if you have to answer for

>The fact that he has been commited to a mental hospital
>(although questionable to some of us due to the 'nature' of
>Johns' interests) is not beyond the reach of reason. Some of us
>just wanted to make sure that this guy wasn't being "railroaded"
>because of his interest/belief in UFOs.

>Don't misread that concern for a peer as us giving you more
>guff. It's not. (Als' "passion" aside! <G>) Thank you for
>responding and updating us on the case. I published his (John
>Fords') address, so if anyone needs more information or wishes
>to follow up on the case they can write to -him- and ask him


>John Velez, Webmaster IF-AIC

Dear John:

I never found myself so far out on a limb as when I tried to
help John Ford.

His lawyer deserted me, and Dennis Stacy was eager to print
incriminating information on John and did, and John himself did
not or could not defend himself.

The last move I made on John's behalf was to try to convince him
he had received inadequate legal defense and to get a new
lawyer. John and his brother refused to entertain that idea.
John wrote me from Mid-Hudson that he is doing just fine there.

I do not know what happened to John Ford.

I do not know if the govt tried to drive him over the edge and

I do not know if local authorities tried to get him. Or if there
was anything hidden behind it and it was all just as the
prosecutor said, i.e., that John was under surveillance because
one of his "buddies" tried to illegally sell a gun and they
recorded John saying stupid things just to brag and the police
took it seriously.

I don't know if John's inability to defend himself was a result
of being drugged in jail.

All I know is John Ford is not a threat to anyone and he should
not be in jail.

The whole episode was one of the most discouraging things I have
ever been involved with.

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