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Re: New Jet or UFO?

From: Donald Ledger <dledger@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 09:16:44 +0100
Fwd Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 10:46:20 -0400
Subject: Re: New Jet or UFO?

> From: Sue Strickland <strick@H2Net.net>
> To: "UFO UpDates - Toronto" <updates@globalserve.net>
> Subject: Re: Fast Walker New Jet or UFO?
> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 20:07:47 -0600


> I've got an interesting sighting to discuss. If there's someone
> able to respond to this, I would greatly appreciate it.

> In April, 1992 I was driving home from an evening class on a
> switch-back canyon road. An air-piloted vehicle paced (yes,
> paced) me (at 45-50 mph), along the canyon road cut-out to the
> left. The only light was from my headlights, which I purposely
> used to see inside the vehicle by dropping back, allowing the
> vehicle to get slightly ahead of me.

> The vehicle was just a bit longer and about 2 or 3 times the
> width of my truck. I concentrated on looking for wings. I could
> not see them, but on a couple of occasions, I noticed a red
> blinking light where a running light might be on an airplane. It
> had a see-through canopy stretching from the very front
> (windshield?) to 3/4 of the way back. I saw the shadow of 1
> pilot and 1 other individual (who walked...yes walked...(gravity
> inside?) ...balancing himself between whatever was at his lower
> hip line).

> When I rolled the driver's window down, there was no sound, no
> hum, no whirling (I really thought it was a test jet from the
> AFB!) I really expected to see it a ball of flame around the
> last switch back. It was gone! I looked up, saw nothing but
> stars.

> When I got home and told my husband, he said, "Sue, are you sure
> you saw a plane?" I said, well if it wasn't a plane, it was a
> UFO, because it made no noise." He said, "But what jet do we
> have that could manuver through that canyon-cut going 45-50 mph,
> then shoot ahead just before the cut ended?"


> That was what stumped me.

> Anybody know anything about this?

> Please don't ignore this posting, as you ufologists seem to have
> so many answers.

> Sue

Hi Sue,

There are many out there that have a profound faith in the
ability of the aeronautical community to engineer aircraft that
could explain away UFO sightings. I am not one of them. When it
comes to being able to come close to the capabilities of most
UFOs the defence establishment is still having trouble getting
out of its own way using jets to motivate their vehicles. There
is nothing else.

Now you have to ask yourself, and this should be your prime
question, "...why is some government agency [if it does have
some type of new "drive"] out flying this aircraft around near a
public highway in such a manner as to make it visible to the
general public?" Beyond all else, this question has to be
answered first "if" you support the theory that what you saw was
a man made vehicle.

The "new" stealth as opposed to the "old"? The "old" F-117A is
really a turkey of an aircraft that is very noisy, slow and
clumsy. It has the ability to avoid radar detection the same as
a fiberglass yacht does. It just goes faster than the yacht. Ask
me if I have any respect for that machine. It works well against
any opposing force that has ancient radar technology, or none.

As for "new" stealths. By whom, the same people who gave you the
F-117A? Remember how the public got wind of the latter. It
crashed out in the desert somewhere during test flights in the
late 70s. It has continued to do that ever since. It doesn't
need an enemy to bring it down, it does that quite nicely on its

You mentioned that the UFO was flying down the highway at about
50 mph. A Cessna-172 will stall out of the sky at 52-54 mph with
full flaps deployed, and is noisey enough, for instance, that
you would hear it quite well. Just to eliminate the ultralite
possibility, there is none built that would be roomy enough to
allow a passenger to get up and walk around. Prop driven
aircraft usually generate most of their noise from the prop, not
the muffled engine, though that is loud enough.

You usually get new technology following out of the old, but in
this case you have to ask yourself, in the last 20 years has the
aerospace industry had the time to extrapolate from a poorly
designed, unweildly, noisey, and slow aircraft to the one you
saw in the canyon? And if so, again why was it flying down a
public highway during testing?

Hope this helps eliminate some possibilities for you Sue.

Don Ledger

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