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UFOs are not BVM-acabras

From: Larry Hatch <larryhat@jps.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 06:15:54 -0700
Fwd Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 11:10:09 -0400
Subject: UFOs are not BVM-acabras

to: Mark, Rob, et. al:

If I may interrupt with a difficult question, a bit off topic I

Let's say I have a friend I enjoy discussing all sorts of things
with and the topic of UFOs come up. I think they are well worthy
of serious (and possibly costly ) study. My friend thinks they
are just bunk, all things considered .. the usual list of
misidentifications, hoaxes, wishful thinking .. you name it.

BUT! I interject. "Have you studied the literature? .. Have you
heard about (this) case or (that) sighting? How about Trans-en-
Proivence France for example!

It turns out that all my friend knows about is the crap on TV,
and what he reads in the papers i.e. nothing solid.

Naturally, I point out that one cannot begin to make value
judgements of this sort without studying the serious data!

My (hypothetical) friend will not study the data because the
whole topic is bunk, and it is bunk because he has not seen the
more solid studies!

A "vicious circle" you say? No! This is a relatively benign
circularity. (I forget the word .. tautology perhaps?)

The more vicious circle closes when my friend starts asking me
about astrology, scientology, shamanic ritualism, BVM sightings,
chupacabras or anything else I cannot (yet) take seriously.

He hits me with the same arguments I just used!

Has Larry Hatch read about BVM sightings and the miraculous
cures associated with them? .. "Well. er. no. " I am forced to

" Who the hell has time for that sort of crap! " (I clumsiliy
bluster, nearly spilling my beer)

"My point exactly!" Says my skeptical friend.. " Now you know
why I don't read the so-called 'serious UFO stuff'. "

.. And there I am, stuck for an answer.

Don't tell me it is useless to argue with this guy, I know that.

I want a more intelligent response than "UFOs are not as goofy
as Chupacabras, the BVM and so forth".

Evidence? The Mormons have all sorts of evidence.

Witnesses? Try the Jehovahs Witnesses.

Scientific measurements? The Scientologists have a $3000
ohm-meter they sell as a "stress analyzer" or some such.

What do I say to this not-so-hypothetical friend?

Its not such an easy question as it may seem.

- Larry Hatch

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