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Re: 'She Blinded Me with Science'

From: Donald  Ledger <dledger@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 14:37:45 +0100
Fwd Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 05:18:46 -0400
Subject: Re: 'She Blinded Me with Science'

> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 11:09:03 +0100
> To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
> From: Sean Jones <Tedric@tedric.demon.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: CSICOP condemns X-Files Movie

> >Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 10:16:01 +0100
> >From: Donald  Ledger <dledger@ns.sympatico.ca>
> >To: updates@globalserve.net
> >Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: CSICOP condemns X-Files Movie

> Hi Don

> >Hello Jared and List,

> >Well now, after having just read the little piece "Skeptics
> >verses Science" subtitled "Scientisits concerned by Portrayal of
> >Science" I am just devastated that "science" is, for a change,
> >behind the eightball taking the licks it so richly deserves for
> >sticking its cowardly head up its own ass all these years on the
> >UFO phenomenon.  It never ceases to amaze me at the two-headed
> >approach that "science" takes on the pursuit of truth, which is
> >[1] their truth and [2] the great unwasheds' truth. The latter of
> >course is all of the other ignoramouses that are not those
> >shining knights of the first truth, the "scientisits". Without
> >them, we would not have been on the verge of the "big"
> >breakthrough, for instance' on a cure for cancer for the last
> >50-60 years-probably one of the biggest moneymakers of all time
> >for scientists at several hundreds of billions of dollars. Or
> >heart disease or,arthritis, or altzeimers, or the common cold or
> >obesity or one of the newer moneymakers, AIDs.

> >How about the science of astronomy for instance. There was the
> >truth of 50 years ago and now the present day truth, mostly made
> >clearer it seems not by science but by engineering, meaning
> >electronics and optics.[We'll ignore the monumental screwup with
> >Hubbles vision problem for the moment, which one astronomer told
> >me could have been discovered using an amateur's instrument used
> >for measuring the curve of a lens costing about $100.00]

> >The monumental blunders made in the world of science over the
> >last 50 years would fill several of Jerome Clark's encylopedias,
> >with each blunder being satisfactorly being covered or explained
> >away by their own invisible college of spin doctors. Can't have
> >the great unwashed thinking that the scientists aren't the Gods
> >that they and the geat unwashed think them to be.

> >The doctors have been taking a well deserved hosing for the last
> >few years so now maybe its time for the "scientists" to take
> >their licks.

> >From one who has been profoundly dissappointed over the last few
> >years by the performance of the so called "people who seek the
> >truth".

> >Don Ledger

> Its funny you should talk about monumental blunders of science. I am
> currently debateing with a scientist about FTL and he says flat out it
> aint possible etc etc.

> Could you possibly put together a quick list for me where by
> scientists have made these monumental blunders so I can with
> conviction say that scientists are not always right, look here. I
> would appreciate it very much, I have already quoted that
> scientists said that the Earth was flat and that excededing eight
> miles per hour in a motor car would asphyxiate the driver to
> which he snorted (figureatively of course) so I really would
> appreciate a list to poke under his arrogant nose.

Well Sean, I wish I did have some specific names to give you but
most of my experiences have been of a general nature and a
growing concern over the years that the "scientists" as we once
knew them have gotten to political. I don't mean necessarily in
the government sense. Perhaps they always were and I just didn't
notice, but they fail to be really objective as to what is or
isn't fair game for study. Certainly there is the ever present
pecking order in scientific circles as there are in any
profession, trade or organization for that matter, but I can't
understand why such an interesting subject can be so hard for
them to at least peek at. It doesn't take very long to discover
that there is something here to be lokked at in a major way.

I don't think anyone will argue that science is and has been up
for sale for the last 30 years or even more. By that I mean the
cigarette manufacturers scientists as opposed to the health and
welfare scientists, the ecological scientists verses the heavy
industry scientists as examples.

I think any scientist can have their bell rung though if
confronted by the stark evidence as were Clyde Tombaugh or Paul
R. Hill. I'm always impressed with Clyde Tombaugh's statement to
the effect that after having seen his first UFO his whole belief
system had been changed in a matter of seconds.

Don Ledger

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