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Re: A Divided Community Can Never Get Answers

From: bruce maccabee <brumac@compuserve.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:05:42 -0400
Fwd Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:05:10 -0400
Subject: Re: A Divided Community Can Never Get Answers

>Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:56:04 -0400
>From: Peter Brookesmith <101653.2205@compuserve.com>
>Subject: A Divided Community Can Never Get Answers
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>

>With the compliments of the Duke of Mendoza:

>>Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 12:09:30 +0000
>>From: Diane Lovett <RAMBLD@worldnet.att.net>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>Subject: Re: A Divided Community Can Never Get Anwsers

>. The name calling and nastiness leaves a
>>really bad taste in a lot of mouths. Disagree
>>all you want, but what in the world is accomplished
>>by name calling and personal attacks?!

>What upsets you is inherent in the nature of the subject
>and, as long as people feel strongly, an element of savagery
>will always be present along with the disputations. Some
>people, too, will always be more tender than others when
t>heir cherished ideas are threatened, and correspondingly
>more vitriolic in defending them. Like Dr Chasuble, even I
>am somewhat susceptible to drafts.

Periphrasis D. Maunderon
Barbed Wit

 Dear Barbed,

Susceptible to drafts? And to draughts?

I would like to point out that "ufology" is LIKE science....
except there is "more of it." People don't generally learn about
the personal antagonisms between "straight" scientists because
(a) the information is not published and (b) in general the
belief of the scientific community in the correctness of the
result of an experiment or the result of a theoretical analysis
is not based on the trust in the accuracy of the scientist or
whether said scientist is a "good person" because the
experiment/theoretical analysis can be replicated by others. In
ufology each sighting is a unique event and generally each
investigation is also a unique event (more comments on this in
another post to this list). Hence the trust in the investigator
becomes important in anyone's decision whether or not to believe
that a particular sighting has been explained or has not been

As one can see, once trust in the investigator(s) becomes an
important part of belief in the results of an investigation, the
way is opened for (dare I say i?) ad hominem attacks (see
Burns-Clark, elsewhere).

And then, of course, there are the just plain bullshit artists
who flock to the UFO field with all sorts of stories about how
they saw this or that or went here or there or worked for the
government and saw UFOs and bodies, etc.... all said stories
being acked up by exactly no proof. No wonder the poor neophyte
wonders who, if any, has his/her had screwed on straight. No
wonder the beginner is confused.

Maybe if we could just get back to discussing the details of
sightings the new recruits would discover that there really is
some gold in that field of dross and dreams.

Ponds J. Fishbite
Barbed Hook

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