UFO UpDates
A mailing list for the study of UFO-related phenomena
'Its All Here In Black & White'
Location: UFOUpDatesList.Com > 1998 > Jun > Jun 25

Ray Stanford [was: Re: Veteran Ufologist

From: bruce maccabee <brumac@compuserve.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 23:45:25 -0400
Fwd Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:34:21 -0400
Subject: Ray Stanford [was: Re: Veteran Ufologist

>From: Stig_Agermose@online.pol.dk (Stig Agermose)
>To: updates@globalserve.net
>Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 03:24:32 +0200
>Subject: Veteran Ufologist Becomes Successful Amateur Paleontologist

http://www.ufomind.com/cgi-bin/maillist-today.cgi?file=/ufo/updates/1998/jun/m23-001.shtml --ebk]

>As many of you will know, Ray and Rex Stanford became famous in the
>50's for their alleged telepathic contact with aliens and the
>subsequent UFO sightings. Some of these were confirmed by photographic
>evidence, but one, which took place on November 6, 1954, is worth
>special notice, as it was confirmed by sworn statements by policemen.

Ray was active in ufology up through the '80's, but seems to
have "quieted down" since he married Shiela some 10 or so years

In April 1988 he publicized the results of his brief
investigation into the Ed Walters photographs. He appeared on TV
and in print calling them a fraud because the first 5 pictures,
Ray claimed, coul not have been taken on the day and at the time
Ed said they were taken. Ray's conclusion was based on a study
of the cloud imagery in the photos and upon the weather
conditions. Ray was so confident of his conclusion that he
publcly stated that if he was wrong he would exit the UFO field
of research.


The paper he wrote to support his conclusion was analyzed on the
same day that he published it and "went public" on TV etc. It
was discovered that Ray had used the WRONG DIRECTION for the
sighting line. Once the correct direction was picked and the
sky/clouds in the photos were compared with the weather, there
was no contradiction. Hence on the very next day Ray went public
again....to announce that "bad data" had led him to the wrong
conclusion and he admitted that the photos probably were taken
on the day and at the time Ed said. (He did not, however,
retract his opinion that the photos were a hoax, but now he had
no hard evidence on which to base his conclusion.)

[ Next Message | Previous Message | This Day's Messages ]
This Month's Index |

UFO UpDates Main Index

UFO UpDates - Toronto - Operated by Errol Bruce-Knapp

Archive programming by Glenn Campbell at Glenn-Campbell.com