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Nua Blather: Below Scottish Lochs and Churches

From: Dave Walsh <dave@nua.ie>
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:33:04 +0100
Fwd Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 10:08:12 -0400
Subject: Nua Blather: Below Scottish Lochs and Churches

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By Daev Walsh   Email: blather@nua.ie
Web: http://www.nua.ie/blather/
June 26 1998  Published By:  Nua Limited  Vol 2. No. 7

Paul Harrison, a 'Loch Ness Monster researcher' is said to be on the
hunt for 'personal sightings, photographs or family stories'
concerning Nessie in general, and a copy of the elusive 1930s MacRae
film of the beast in particular.

A shroud of doubt and obscurity surrounds this film since F.W.
Holiday talked about it in his 1968 book *The Great Orm of
Loch Ness*. I haven't myself read this book, but I have read
variations of the tale -- Dr. MacRae, a retired doctor residing at
Loch Duich had managed to capture the alleged beastie on film, at 100
yards or so. I recently perused Holiday's *The Dragon on the Disc*
(ISBN 0-8600-7056-5, Norton ISBN: 0393063364), an interesting book,
especially the accounts of Lionel Leslie planting 5lb of gelignite in
Lough Fadda, Co. Galway in October 1965, in order to raise the beast
witnessed by Georgina Carberry. *The Dragon on the Disc* seeks to tie
human traditions -- both historical and prehistoric -- of disc and
snake motifs together, to show a connection between the UFO and lake
monster phenomenon. Now, while I'm inclined to suggest that this is
the case - but on a spectrum that encompasses *other* beliefs, motifs
and paranormal goings-on, not unlike the suggestions of John Keel,
Holiday seems to get a smidgen too giddy for my liking, and after
building up some compelling cases of recurring disc and serpent
motifs at ancient sites, seems to fall at the last fence through his
own untethered conjecture.

Thus, when I hear that Holiday claims that the MacRae film is "the
most sensational wildlife film of all time", I tend to reserve
a considerable degree of doubt.

To un-digress, the MacRae film was allegedly placed in a London bank
vault, apparently to avoid ridicule. McRae, a Mr Alastair Dallas and
an unnamed third party are apparently the only ones to have ever seen
the film, according the Inverness Courier of June 6th 1998. A
Colonel Donald Cameron has also been mentioned. More anon,
as I shall have to do some scouring of the files.

Assuming that Holiday wasn't being 'wound up' when this tale was
related to him by Alastair Dallas, some 30 years after the alleged
event, the films are probably rotting away in a vault somewhere, and
rest assured, Mr. Harrison isn't the only one who would like to get a
gander at them. Anyway, here's his address.

Paul Harrison
Nunneley Way,
Markey Harborough,
LE16 7EG,
United Kingdom

(Inverness [Scotland] Courier - Monday, June 6th 1998)


More news from Scotland -- or more precisely, Gordon Rutter,
mycologist extraordinaire, informs us that a new mailing list has
been created, 'specifically for discussion relating to Rosslyn Chapel
the Knights Templar'.

To subscribe go to

Gordon tells us (for it is he who is the perpetrator) that 'The list
is dedicated to discussion and theorising about Rosslyn Chapel,
founded during the 14th century, an intriguing building with
many links to the Knights Templar and from there to many other
esoteric fields. Discussion on this list is restricted to things
relating to Rosslyn, all aspects of the Knights Templar, and
anything relating to these two topics. (Quite a broad remit when you
consider that Rosslyn has been given as a repository of everything
from the Ark of the Covenant to Jesus' earthly remains). If you're
familiar with the writings of Baigent, Lincoln, Haisman, Bauval,
Hancock, Knight and Lomas or similar authors then that's what we're

'A country without village idiots is not worth living in. Without
them there is no way of knowing who are sane.'

- Oliver St. John Gogarty, considering the advantages of living in
Dublin over London, *As I Was Going Down Sackville St.* (ISBN:

Just three weeks ago, Blather mentioned a court case where an alleged
John the Baptist was tried. This week, Jesus Christ himself was
deemed insane and unfit to stand trial for assault, and after
claiming that the entire court was in on the deal, was removed from
the court has been detained at the pleasure of the Irish taxpayer.

Jesus, a.k.a. David Dunleavy (34), a native of Kilrush Co.
Clare, claims to be the victim of an international conspiracy
involving the 12 Apostles and MI5.

Pending trials include the self-styled 'Tooth Fairy' for alleged
Dental Larceny, 'The Easter Bunny' for alleged terrorist activities,
and 'Santa Claus' for alleged surrealist burglaries.
(The Irish Independent, Wednesday, 24th June 1998

Page 6 of the Irish Times, Friday June 19th 1998 had a curious little
sidebar mention of a 'Skull Found in Phoenix Park'. A passer-by
happened upon the skull by the Wellington Monument, and alerted
Garda=ED. I wonder if the current archaeological exhumation taking
place at nearby Croppy's Acre -- the burial site of rebels executed
during 1798 rising -- is in anyway related?

Persons wishing to claim are presumably invited to contact
the State Pathologist, Dr. john Harbison, at the City Morgue.

Steven Alan Smith writes from the USA to tell Blather that 'your
Mothman story [My story? - Blather] reminded me of something that
happened in my home town (pop. 4000), when I graduated from high
school in 1966.

'One of my classmates pulled off an amazingly successful stunt. Six
miles away from my town was Frontnac, a town with 100 or 150 people.
A mile away was "Old Frontnac" the original site of the town on the
river before they built the railroad. There's a graveyard there with
the monumental gravemarker of a man who was a hero in the American
Civil War. Tony dressed up as a Civil War general and walked
around the monument at night. Only one other person was in on it --
the first night he brought some people out there who would become the
first terrified witnesses. It went on for maybe three or four days
and then he came out and exposed himself. [I gather Mr. Smith doesn't
refer to any illegal exhibitionism on the part of his colleague -

'What an incredible three or four days. It was the only thing people
could talk about. It was truly a good thing he didn't carry it on any
longer because the spooked Frontnac town constable was becoming a
dangerous man and might have shot someone.'


From: Mark Pilkington at Magonia. . .

24th June 1998

ETH Bulletin #4
What drives the UFO hoaxers? The ETH fades from view

A Cause For Concern
Flying Saucer Review - The descent into madness

The Concrete Dream
Three flavours of UFO encounter

Virtual Banality
John Rimmer considers the borders of reality

17th June 1998

Angel Hair
John Harney combs the evidence

The Ubatuba Magnesium
UFO wreckage or just a pile of slag?

The Philosophical Double Cross
Eugenia Macer Story investigates right wing channelers, finding clues
in some unlikely places


Dave Walsh
Friday June 26th 1998

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