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Re: Friedman vs. Krauss Debate

From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac@compuserve.com>
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:33:14 -0400
Fwd Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 09:23:41 -0400
Subject: Re: Friedman vs. Krauss Debate


>From: Brad Sparks <RB47Expert@aol.com>
>Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:03:08 EST
>Subject: Re: Friedman vs. Krauss Debate
>To: updates@globalserve.net

<snip>

>Some skeptics, such as Menzel and Sheaffer, have provably
>distorted or ignored evidence, though I almost never see
>specific examples cited on this List (till Mark's posting and
>Jerry Clark's).  Menzel distorted the facts of his own sighting
>of May 1949 (reducing their angular size, etc.), miscalculated
>the setting time of Jupiter in the Gorman case, and invented
>nonexistent "atmospheric lenses" to explain UFO cases, which
>McDonald pointed out would require absurd temperature inversions
>of 100,000's of degrees per unit distance (1000 feet, mile, km,
>doesn't much matter when it's 4 to 5 orders of magnitude too
>large).

>Sheaffer invented a nonexistent "tangle of threads" on a wire
>above the Trent/McMinnville UFO in his Plate 19 of his UFO
>Verdict book where no such thing is to be found.  When I
>personally challenged him on this at a meeting of Bay Area
>Skeptics in May 1985 he had no answer at all, instead he tried
>to shut off the dialogue by changing the subject and eventually
>turned the lights off in the meeting room when his own BAS
>skeptics wanted to hear him answer these rebuttal points I made.

>Now, 14 years later, Sheaffer points to an amorphous fuzz spot
>that is _not_ above the UFO but off to the left and is _above_
>the wire and not actually touching it, and it appears in the
>wrong Trent photo than that cited in his book.  It is apparently
>a film defect not a real object since it does _not_ appear in the
>_other_ Trent Photo.

It was my realization/discovery some 20 years ago that the
skeptics played fast and loose with the data and analysis that
made me

<gulp>

(Oh, heresy, they name is Bruce....)

SKEPTICAL OF THE SKEPTICS!!!


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