From: Bruce Maccabee <email@example.com> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:33:14 -0400 Fwd Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 09:23:41 -0400 Subject: Re: Friedman vs. Krauss Debate >From: Brad Sparks <RB47Expert@aol.com> >Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:03:08 EST >Subject: Re: Friedman vs. Krauss Debate >To: firstname.lastname@example.org <snip> >Some skeptics, such as Menzel and Sheaffer, have provably >distorted or ignored evidence, though I almost never see >specific examples cited on this List (till Mark's posting and >Jerry Clark's). Menzel distorted the facts of his own sighting >of May 1949 (reducing their angular size, etc.), miscalculated >the setting time of Jupiter in the Gorman case, and invented >nonexistent "atmospheric lenses" to explain UFO cases, which >McDonald pointed out would require absurd temperature inversions >of 100,000's of degrees per unit distance (1000 feet, mile, km, >doesn't much matter when it's 4 to 5 orders of magnitude too >large). >Sheaffer invented a nonexistent "tangle of threads" on a wire >above the Trent/McMinnville UFO in his Plate 19 of his UFO >Verdict book where no such thing is to be found. When I >personally challenged him on this at a meeting of Bay Area >Skeptics in May 1985 he had no answer at all, instead he tried >to shut off the dialogue by changing the subject and eventually >turned the lights off in the meeting room when his own BAS >skeptics wanted to hear him answer these rebuttal points I made. >Now, 14 years later, Sheaffer points to an amorphous fuzz spot >that is _not_ above the UFO but off to the left and is _above_ >the wire and not actually touching it, and it appears in the >wrong Trent photo than that cited in his book. It is apparently >a film defect not a real object since it does _not_ appear in the >_other_ Trent Photo. It was my realization/discovery some 20 years ago that the skeptics played fast and loose with the data and analysis that made me <gulp> (Oh, heresy, they name is Bruce....) SKEPTICAL OF THE SKEPTICS!!!
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