From: Kim Burrafato <email@example.com> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 22:37:29 -0700 Fwd Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:09:26 -0400 Subject: ETH And ORH [was: Friedman vs. Krauss Debate] >Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:53:07 -0400 >From: Peter Brookesmith Mendoza <DarkSecretPB@compuserve.com> >Subject: Re: Friedman vs. Krauss Debate >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <firstname.lastname@example.org> >>From: Brad Sparks <RB47Expert@aol.com> >>Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 13:11:43 EDT >>Subject: Re: Friedman vs. Krauss Debate >>To: email@example.com I fail to see the real difference between the ETH and the ORH. It's pretty clear that a significant number of UFO cases cannot realistically be dismissed as mistaken natural or manmade phenomena. Therefore, we are left with the nagging question of "What are they?" I admit to being prejudiced towards objectively real (whatever that might be!) descriptions, over subjective psychically based descriptions. And when we get to deliberate government conspiracies of deception to fool and control the superstitious and ignorant masses, that's where you lose me. I've seen these objects four times. And each time was with other sober and competent co-witnesses. I know a bit about physics. Yet, I was unable to rationally explain what I, and others with me saw. So, where do we go from there? I don't think it's any more of an intellectual stretch to rationalize these objects as truly extraterrestrial in origin, than it is to say they are hitherto unknown psycho cultural memetic manifestations, or even stretching further, some kind of ancient human secret society or theogeo-political control scam.
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