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From: Roy Hale <roy.hale@virgin.net>
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 05:47:46 +0100
Fwd Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:17:08 -0400
Subject: Re: ETH And ORH 

>Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 22:37:29 -0700
>From: Kim Burrafato <lensman@stardrive.org>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: ETH And ORH [was: Friedman vs. Krauss Debate]

>I fail to see the real difference between the ETH and the ORH.
>It's pretty clear that a significant number of UFO cases cannot
>realistically be dismissed as mistaken natural or manmade

>Therefore, we are left with the nagging question of "What are

>I admit to being prejudiced towards objectively real (whatever
>that might be!) descriptions, over subjective psychically based
>descriptions. And when we get to deliberate government
>conspiracies of deception to fool and control the superstitious
>and ignorant masses, that's where you lose me.

>I've seen these objects four times. And each time was with other
>sober and competent co-witnesses.

>I know a bit about physics. Yet, I was unable to rationally
>explain what I, and others with me saw. So, where do we go from

>I don't think it's any more of an intellectual stretch to
>rationalize these objects as truly extraterrestrial in origin,
>than it is to say they are hitherto unknown psycho cultural
>memetic manifestations, or even stretching further, some kind of
>ancient human secret society or theogeo-political control scam.

Hi Kim,

Be careful now you can't mention that word ET! (Ha Ha!)

On another point I know someone who has been reguarly viewing
Aerial Objects in the sky, which strangely enough appear most of
the time he is out looking.

This week as part of an interview for an up and coming TV
documentary, two of my colleagues were taken to a location to be

Whilst being interviewd, quite suddenly, an object appeared
above them, which was caught on video tape by one of the other
interviewees (The camera crew also saw it)

My colleague has also caught a rather interseting object sitting
over an airbase in Oxfordshire, only last week. He went there to
see the B2-bombers take-off for Serbia.

This tape is being looked at on Sunday by a person who is well
versed in Analysis of such video, and subsequently we will be
waiting on his opinion as to what is on the tape.

Quite clearly the tape shows a circular shaped disc. This
footage was taken in daylight.

So what has my colleague and perhaps many other people in the
UK, at sometime been viewing? I can only tell you what I have
seen and the answer is quite clearly metalic-looking disc-shaped
objects sitting in the sky.

This footage I hope will be shown on the forth-coming TV Doc, so
keep your eyes peeled. I will also keep the list updated with
any progress this video makes.

Really it's not such a big leap after all!



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