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Re: Abduction - The Issue Of Reality

From: Dennis Stacy <dstacy@texas.net>
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:05:54 -0600 (CST)
Fwd Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:18:52 -0500
Subject: Re: Abduction - The Issue Of Reality

>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net>
>Subject: Re: Abduction - The Issue Of Reality
>Date: Mon, 01 Feb 99 12:41:36 PST

>>>>As for "confirmatory items
>>>previously unreported in the UFO literature" (my phrase, not
>>>yours), I always wonder why we're not subjected to the real
>>>nitty-gritty? That is, do many abductees report soiling their
>>>underwear when they're abruptly lifted out of bed and
>>>transported through a solid wall into a round spaceship,
>>>whereupon they're rudely greyhandled by aliens and helpers in
>>>blue uniforms? I think I would! Yet to the best of my knowledge,
>>>I can't think of a single case in which a good crap in the pants
>>>has come to light. Not prurient, just curious. Advanced as they
>>>are, I feel sure that the aliens have come to grips with this
>>>unexpected side-effect of their activities. Indeed, maybe this
>>>explains the presence of the helpers in blue, after all. They're
>>>there to clean up!

>Dennis,

>I don't know if this is a serious question, but I'll act as if
>it were.  Let me ask one in return:

Jerry,

It's a perfectly serious question.

>How many people in other traumatic situations -- combat,
>assault, rape, and the like -- volunteer the information that
>while being terrorized and traumatized they accidentally
>defecated or urinated?

>Jerry Clark


Well, ask yourself howcome it's known that loss of bladder and
bowel control under traumatic circumstances is a fairly well
accepted given? Obviously, a lot of people have volunteered the
information over the years, or responded positively when asked
directly or indirectly.

Would I expect _everyone_ to volunteer the information? No. But
again, even that would depend on the particular circumstances.
An abductee could say, for example, that "the next thing I
remember is waking up in my bed at 4am. My underclothes were
completely soiled, so the first thing I did was take a hot
shower," that sort of thing.

If both male and female abductees are willing to go into quite
detailed accounts of being sexually violated and humiliated,
then bringing up a loss of the bladder or bowels doesn't seem
like such a stretch. Embarrassing is embarrassing. In fact,
Spielberg used it to rather dramatic effect in the opening
scenes of CE3, if you remember. Was it merely artistic license,
or did he pick it up in the literature, or perhaps in
conversation with Hynek?

I was simply curious as to why it seems to be conspicuous by its
absence in abduction accounts. I'd think being abducted would
scare the crap out of me!

Dennis



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