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Re: Abduction - The Issue Of Reality

From: Peter Brookesmith Mendoza <DarkSecretPB@compuserve.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:49:33 -0500
Fwd Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 10:30:24 -0500
Subject: Re: Abduction - The Issue Of Reality

Compliments of the Duke of Medoza:

>From: Greg Sandow <gsandow@prodigy.net>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Re: Abduction - The Issue Of Reality
>Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 20:23:52 -0500

Greg quoted Rebecca mentioning:

>>Betty Hill who says something about abductees getting together
>>at group meeting and comparing notes?

and continued:

>Peter posted something here to that effect, using (I think) the
>text of an article he published elsewhere. I think it might have
>been an outtake from his book.

No, it was a trailer from the Fortean Times website for the
printed issue containing the interview. Betty isn't the first to
suggest this, of course.

>At the time, I thought -- and
>should have posted here -- that Betty Hill is hardly an expert
>on the current abduction phenomenon, despite her historical
>importance. Much of what she said, I thought, was more or less
>off the top of her head.

Much of what she said is echoed in her book, so she has thought
about it. Actually, after a while talking with Betty, it's not
hard to tell when she's speaking rehearsed, considered thoughts
and when she's being spontaneous. I tried to reflect both sides.

>I'm not sure why Peter thought it was
>worth publishing, unless he was just having fun saying, "See,
>even a famous abudctee thinks abduction research has problems."

Bear in mind FT has a "general", not a specialist readership.
Not much had been heard of from Betty in the UK for a long
while, FT had never interviewed her, her book had gone
unremarked almost everywhere, and the thoughts of someone of
"historical importance" who's been there and done that on
current abductology are surely of interest even to the most
jaded palate. And she made a substantive point or two about
hypnosis, and about her notion of what "aliens" - "UFO people"
to her - may be about. Her expertise in terms of details of
current research is neither here nor there. As the grandmother
of the abduction phenomenon, her comments on the antics of the
modern Gray are worth "taking seriously", and set off plenty of
interesting hares--too obvious even to mention here--that
current abductology hasn't addressed.

Yes, to some extent I was having fun. I enormously enjoyed
Betty's company and we had a lot of laughs. I hope some of her
huge & irrepressible zest came across on the printed page.

As for Little Richard--well, I'm not going to get into the
history of rock'n'roll, but if you had the opportunity to
interview him you'd take it up, wouldn't you? And I'm sure you'd
expect your readers to have the urbanity to know that what he
might say wasn't part of some private musical agenda of your

My turn to say "C'mon". :-)

>Important area for current investigation (I'm working on this):
>Dave Jacobs' claim that abductees always put certain seemingly
>random -- and obscure -- details in the same order. Dave has all
>his hypnotic sessions transcribed, and so his claim, if it's
>correct, ought to be possible for him to document.

Dangerous to comment on the unseen--but here's another example
of a vague claim that few wot of, and that, until we see the
whole transcript and know a good deal more besides, merely
invites a shrug. However, if these details come out "in the same
order", they are not "random". Maybe they come out in the same
order because they make narrative sense, but then you may think
that idea is "truly loopy", ho hum. Maybe there is some other
reason. In any case, this aspect of abductions deserves looking
at, and I hope whoever does it spends a few hours discussing it
with Ed Bullard. I foresee a few juicy debates.

Anyway, who are you to talk, we all know you are a KGB agent and
in Allen Hynek's pocket without knowing it. (As he did not,

best wishes
Pedersoli D. Messenger
Shooting Back

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