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Re: Abduction - The Issue Of Reality

From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 99 10:54:43 PST
Fwd Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 13:55:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Abduction - The Issue Of Reality

>Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:05:54 -0600 (CST)
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>From: Dennis Stacy <dstacy@texas.net>
>Subject: Re: Abduction - The Issue Of Reality

>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net>
>>Subject: Re: Abduction - The Issue Of Reality
>>Date: Mon, 01 Feb 99 12:41:36 PST

Hi, Dennis,

>>How many people in other traumatic situations -- combat,
>>assault, rape, and the like -- volunteer the information that
>>while being terrorized and traumatized they accidentally
>>defecated or urinated?

>Well, ask yourself howcome it's known that loss of bladder and
>bowel control under traumatic circumstances is a fairly well
>accepted given? Obviously, a lot of people have volunteered the
>information over the years, or responded positively when asked
>directly or indirectly.

I doubt that such loss of control "is a fairy well accepted
given." In fact, it is discussed so infrequently in accounts of
violent or traumatic events (which, it ought to be noted, are
far, far more frequent than abduction accounts) that
coincidentally, a week or so before your posting, I had occasion
to reflect on the question.  I was writing a short story
collection by Richard Currey, The Wars of Heaven, set in the
West Virginia coal fields.  In one story a character has a
violent confrontation with a police officer, in the course of
which one of the participants involuntarily defecates out of

This detail struck me for the simple reason that it is rarely
mentioned in reports of violent and/or traumatic episodes. We
may read of all kinds of appalling horrors inflicted on victims
from assault to rape to murder, but we don't read much about
loss of bowel and bladder control, though it surely occurs
often. Absence of reference in abduction accounts -- relatively
rare, as noted, next to other sorts of accounts of trauma and
assault -- is hardly surprising, as I see it, for pretty much
the same reason other, more conventional crime victims don't
talk about it.  It's a sort of ultimate humiliation.

I agree with you, though:  Getting abducted would scare the crap
out of me.

Jerry Clark

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