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Re: Abduction - The Issue Of Reality

From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:04:52 EST
Fwd Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 14:09:22 -0500
Subject: Re: Abduction - The Issue Of Reality

>From: John W. Ratcliff <jratcliff@worldnet.att.net>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Re: Abduction - The Issue Of Reality
>Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:12:01 -0600

>>From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com>
>>Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:52:20 EST
>>To: updates@globalserve.net
>>Subject: Re: Abduction - The Issue Of Reality

>Kevin wrote about many problems with hypnosis <snipped>and then
>continued with this commentary about memory:

>>No, she would understand the difference in what is being
>>discussed here. Psychologist Ulric Neisser had an opportunity to
>>study "flashbulb" memories, those memories of important events
>>like the Kennedy assassination or the Challenger explosion. He
>>gave his freshman students a short questionnaire the day after
>>the Challenger exploded asking about where they were when they
>>heard, what they were doing. Three years later he gave those
>>same students, now seniors, the same questionnaire with a
>>single, additional question. How accurate to you believe your
>>memories to be? According to the research, a quarter of the
>>students had no memories that were accurate. In one case a
>>student said he had been home with his parents when it was clear
>>he was away from home at college.

>>When confronted with the inaccuracy of these memories, the
>>students argued with them, even though they had provided the
>>original information within hours of the event. One student
>>said, "I still remember everything happening the way I told you.
>>I can't help it." She was defending the memories that were
>>clearly an invention of her own mind about the event.

>How ironic Kevin, I have never read a more effective debunking
>of Roswell 'witness' testimony than your own words above.

>John W. Ratcliff

Please note that 75% of the students did have accurate memories
as noted above. Also note that had the professor contacted the
family of the student who believed that he had been home when
the event was reported, there probably wouldn't have been
corroborative detail.

Yes, people believe their memories are accurate and that is why
we seek additional witnesses to corroborate the stories and
attempt to fit the individual pieces into a complex whole.

My point is that when relying on eyewitness testimony,
especially that which is years old, it is necessary to find
corroboration. So, When Jesse Marcel, Sr., says that he was
accompanied to the debris field by Sheridan Cavitt, we ask
Cavitt about that. Cavitt tells us that it isn't true, so who do
we believe? Marcel, because Cavitt, in his interview with
Colonel Richard Weaver confirms that Marcel's memory was

But this is a diversion from the nature of this thread (though
the discussion of memory was a diversion as well).


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