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Re: Premature Birth & Abduction?

From: Judith Dale <judithdale@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 12:13:34 -0800
Fwd Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 15:34:17 -0500
Subject: Re: Premature Birth & Abduction?

>From: Greg Sandow <gsandow@prodigy.net>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Re: Premature Birth & Abduction?
>Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:27:33 -0500

>>From: Leanne Martin <leanne_martin@hotmail.com>
>>To: updates@globalserve.net
>>Subject: Premature Birth & Abduction?
>>Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:47:30 PST

>>Is any one aware of any statistical link between premature
>>birth and claimants of abduction?

>>Or perhaps even late and C-section births?

>>Do researchers even bother to look at issues like these when
>>interviewing an 'abductee'?

>Why should they?

>The C-section issue came up when Alvin Lawson suggested that
>alleged abduction memories were really memories of birth. One of
>the many arguments against him was that no abductees could have
>been born with C-sections. (The other one, of course, was that
>nobody has ever proved that anyone remembers being born.)

>But why are you asking your question?

Hi Greg, Leanne, and all,

This subject of birth memories being a potential source of
alleged alien abduction memories, is an intriguing one.

I have yet to come across any documented 'proof' of birth
memories, but it is a topic that is rampant in the world of
child birthing. Thus, we have advocates of low lights, soft
voices, quiet music, and in some cases under water birth, during
the time of a woman's labor and birthing of her child. The
premise here, is that we do infact remember our birth, and those
memories can be traumatic or pleasant, depending on the

At one point, during my long years of nursing, I did work in the
field of childbirth. I can attest to the fact that babies born
under optimal conditions, are quite alert and interactive with
their environment. Indeed, there has been a mountain of research
done to determine just how alert and aware newborns are. The
data reveals that a healthy non drug affected newborn is very
alert, interacting with, and learning from his/her environment
from the moment of birth. Now, given that a newborn doesn't have
any verbal constructs, or frame of reference for his/her
experiences, any memories are laid down visually, tactilely,
auditorily, and bio chemically within the neuronal structures of
the brain. I don't think the problem is that we don't remember
what happened when we were being born, so much as, no one really
knows how to access those memories. Even older infants and very
young children have memories that we have trouble accessing,
simply because the memories are pre-verbal. I see this obstacle
constantly in the work that I do now with disturbed adolescents.
Many of them of histories of horrendous abuse in infancy and
young childhood, yet cannot access these memories verbally.
However, it is painfully clear to those of us working with these
kids, that this abuse has left much evidence of trauma reflected
in their behaviors and emotions. I don't think the issue of a
birth being premature, or by C-section would make much

Oh my, there I go, being long winded again, sorry :-)  My point
here is that, I don't think we can throw out the possibility
that birth memories may be driving a person's belief that
they've been abducted, and subjected to painful, humiliating,
and terrifying procedures. That may very well be a newborn's
interpretation of birth events. On the other hand, it may be
that we are seeing the result of a young child's pre-verbal
memory of being abducted.

Still and all, I don't think any of this negates the fact that
folks are experiencing a phenomena that is beyond our everyday
view of the mundane. What if, we stopped debating the reality
and just began to operate from the premise that the phenomena of
alien visitation, space flight, and abduction is quite real.

Let's get down to brass tacks here. Why is it happening? What if
anything, do we need to do to respond? Is it a threat to our
well-being as humans? Although, I must say, I believe we are so
much of a threat to ourselves, that an "alien" threat doesn't
seem much worse to me.

Judith Dale

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