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Re: Korff Spams The News Groups!

From: Alfred Lehmberg <Lehmberg@snowhill.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:44:50 -0600
Fwd Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 00:00:20 -0500
Subject: Re: Korff Spams The News Groups!

>Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:46:06 -0800
>From: Kal Korff <KalKorff@KalKorff.com>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Korff Spams The News Groups!

>>Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 08:21:00 -0600
>>From: Alfred Lehmberg <Lehmberg@snowhill.com>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>Subject: UFO UpDate: Re: Korff Spams The News Groups!

>Dear Alfred,

>Obviously, you do not understand me, so I will try to convey
>this to you for the last and final time.

Uh -- Oh  <g>-- but I  think I _do_ understand you, Kal. You
forget what's going on here. I am that public you work
passionately to convince regarding the validity of your
position. I am the individual that you are reporting to. I am
the person that you want to maintain credibility with. I'm in a
position to provide you with valuable feed back, and even more
valuble support, and I'm reporting back to you that half baked
proclamations with a woo woo sound track  (yay _or_ nay) don't
get it any more. I'm informing you that everyone understands
your use of easy to demolish straw examples in your expos=E9s to
demonstrate that the whole FIELD is bunk, stuff, and nonsense.
I'm letting you know that your campaign _is_ ineffective,
insulting, and works as an impediment to your honorable
journalistic success.

>There are no "emotional high ground" games going on here. If you
>wish to play any, then do so without me. What is going on,
>however, is a sincere quest for the truth.

. . .As sincere as professional wrestling, and certainly
approached by you the same way. The rational aren't sucked in.
"Quest for truth," indeed -- please. I snort derisively.

>You, sir, in your emails to and about me, including your literal
>poetry about me over the past year that you have published on
>the web, (please feel free to make up a posting of ALL your
>links discussing me that you have ever written!)

No need Kal -- it's there regardless! The interested reader can
peruse at her leisure.

>seem unable of
>divesting your emotional feelings from the intellectual
>arguments and case logic that you purportedly advocate.

. . . And which _you_ have certainly _not_ provided, in any
shape, way, manner, or discernible form. . .

>Since I
>do not seem able to distinguish between the two when reading
>your writings, then I feel that further correspondence is

And you are probably correct -- except I am loath to let _yours_
be the final word on it!

>Therefore, I am discontinuing it, until if and when the time
>comes that you are able to email me or post your point(s) minus
>the severe emotionalism and ad hominems you presently include.

I see them as honest and meaningful expressions of frustration
and disappointment that you front for agendas wallowing in the
bottom stirring dross of the _easily_ contested. I resent that
you don't use your position, experience, and talent to perform
REAL investigations on _substantive_ issues. I resent that you
are talented enough to draw the concerned anf perplexed into
your prevaricating and _misleading_ camp. I resent your theme,
method, and slap-dash-Persian-bazaar approach, sir. I don't
think this qualifies as "severe emotionalism and ad hominems,"
but I'm content to let our readers be the judge.

>And oh yes, sir, also omitting data and charges for which you
>have no evidence, would also be desirable.

This is just a situation report from the field, Kal -- your
public talking back to you. I'd take a lesson, were it me.

>When you do this, I will be extremely happy to read an email
>from you and finally be able to answer to your issues and
>points, because I will at last have understood them!

I think we both appreciate the full import of both issues and
points, Kal.  But I struggle free of your scales, innuendo, and
darkness. I retreat from your smothering lack of understanding,
your ambushed conclusions, and your apparent lack of
journalistic integrity. 

>Feel free
>to make this as wide a public issue as you like. I welcome close
>scutiny of your postings and written behavior.

I'm all for that <g>. Given the insulting provocation of your
assertions, I think _my_ behavior is admirable.

>I will not waste my time going through your past writings, as
>you curiously recommended,

It's what _you_ would recommend to _me_, sir, if you could truly
stand behind your shallow proclamations; but you _know_ that
they are blown away in the first small breeze of critical
evaluation, so you don't suggest it.

>because having been the subject of
>some of them in often less than flattering terms, why should I
>re-read charges and claims that are patently false?

I'm your reading public, Kal. True or false - they are based on
_your_ track record and subject to change based on _your_
performance (or lack of same). Do something of journalistic
integrity, and I'll be the _first_ to sing your praises.
Continue as you are, and I will also continue to critically
string my guitar with your smoke and mirror innards.

>I don't think you would waste your time on them either.

On the contrary, I would take them point for point, as I have
_been_ doing, and not snip away the portions that are hard to
argue, as you did with all the preamble to _this_ post.

>Looking forward to your writing and publishing, for everyone to
>see, your complete list of writings about me, and also, those
>final emails that are minus the unprofesional verbiage.

. . .Nonsense, you just need to learn to take valid criticism

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