From: Roger Evans <moviestuff@cyberjunkie.com>
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 13:33:58 +0000
Fwd Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 15:28:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Cough, Korf, Ahem!


>From: Sean Jones <tedric@tedric.demon.co.uk>
>Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:21:21 +0000
>Fwd Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 12:17:31 -0500
>Subject: Re: Cough, Korf, Ahem!

>>From: Roger Evans <moviestuff@cyberjunkie.com>
>>Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 14:02:14 +0000
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>Subject: Cough, Korf, Ahem!

Previously, I had offered this in response to Sean's opinion
that all that mattered in ufology was hard work:

>>The only thing that matters is results.

>>When I was a kid, I wanted to play baseball. I sucked at it.
>>Therefore, I had to try twice as hard to make the team and put
>>out a great deal more effort than other kids better than me.
>>Needless to say I did not make the team. But, if "hard work" was
>>the measure for success, then I damn well should have been team
>>captain.

Sean's reply:

>I think you are wrong here Roger.

>To use your analogy

>1) Life's a bitch!

>2) How do you know the others didn't try harder, work longer and
>etc etc? Besides which something like this "talent" comes into
>it as well.

Actually, Sean, I believe I made that very point. I said that I
sucked at it and that the other kids were better than me.
Obviously, despite my efforts, my end results didn't measure up.
I don't see the difference in our two views.

>If you are saying results is all that counts then you are
>demeaning an awful lot of peoples hard work. For example, Kevin
>Randles' investigation of the Roswell incident(s), Stanton
>Friedman's uncovering of the FOIA documents, Chris Rutkowski's
>annual Canadian UFO Reports to name but a few. No I'm sorry
>your "results only" argument doesn't hold water in my opinion.

Are you saying that these people's hard work hasn't produced any
results, Sean? My, how flattering. Do me a favor; in the future
if someone is dissing me, don't step up to my defense, okay?

Just kidding. I'm sure you didn't mean it the way you wrote it.

I have great respect for all these people. My point is that
"field work" is equal to "armchair work" if the results are the
same: Only an opinion. But your intended point is well taken.
Perhaps your comment that "only hard work matters" should be
combined with my comment "only results matter" to read: "Hard
work only matters if it produces usable results".

I can't think of anything more fair than that.

Take care,

Roger Evans