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Re: NASA's Stephens Admits to CAUS That He is a

From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:12:56 -0500
Fwd Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 10:24:04 -0500
Subject: Re: NASA's Stephens Admits to CAUS That He is a

>From: Roger Evans <moviestuff@cyberjunkie.com>
>Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 10:32:16 +0000
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: NASA's Stephens Admits to CAUS That He is a Fraud


>>From: Peter Gersten <UFOLAWYER1@aol.com>
>>Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:58:36 EST
>>Fwd Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 09:35:32 -0500
>>Subject: NASA's Stephens Admits to CAUS That He is a Fraud

>Previously, Peter offered this insight into Robert Stephens:

>>Mr. Stephens was able to fool us for over 80 days.  Shame on us.
>>We are so eager, CAUS included, to find the truth, that we will
>>embrace any 'savior' who presents himself cloaked in the garb of
>>'knowing the truth.'

><snip>

>>A little knowledge is a
>>dangerous weapon in the wrong hands.  In Mr. Stephens' hands, we
>>became willing victims for his expert swordsmanship.

><snip>

>>Hopefully we can learn from the past and not continue to make
>>the same mistakes.  Mr. Stephens was sent to us as an example of
>>what we need to do in the future...if ever presented with
>>another 'savior.'

>I am stunned.

>If you have been reading this list at all, I think you'll find
>that virtually NO ONE took Stephens seriously, much less thought
>of him as a 'savior'. His "swordsmanship", as you put it, was so
>severely lacking that even most armchair ufologists didn't even
>give him a second thought. The fact that _you_ were fooled
>doesn't mean that the majority was also. With all due respect,
>Mr. Gersten, you need to speak for yourself. The picture you
>paint is one of justification for your own gullibility and you
>can leave me out of it.

>I see no lesson to be learned here at all. To attribute such a
>thing to Stephens gives him far more credit than he deserves and
>affords you too convenient a cushion for your fall from reason.

>Later,

>Roger Evans


Hello Roger,

Don't fret over Gerstens' "Fall from reason", - It wasn't a very
long trip! Besides, our Mr Gersten fell off of 'that pony' long
before this. <G>

I wish that CAUS could once again be the tool it once promised
to be when guys like Stan Friedman et. al. would use CAUS as a
platform from which to secure previously classified documents
from the government and to pass on onfo to the public. It
_could_ have been a major 'grass roots' venue, a rallying point.
Instead, it's just another 'UFO related junk mail list' and
nothing more. CAUS needs someone with vision and credentialed
credibility at the helm. Gersten is just running a hippie
commune over there. Until that changes, CAUS will remain the
impotent joke it has become under his leadership.

Peace,

John Velez
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