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Re: Sightings - Czarnik

From: Steven Kaeser <steve@konsulting.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:16:34 -0500
Fwd Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:17:16 -0500
Subject: Re: Sightings - Czarnik

>Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:36:44 -0600
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>From: Michael Christol <mchristo@mindspring.com>
>Subject: Re: Sightings - Czarnik

>>Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:06:10 -0800 (PST)
>>From: Rebecca <xiannekei@yahoo.com>
>>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Sightings - Czarnik
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>

>>I see this claim about people losing their pensions and benefits
>>for talking about secret things, however, of all the people who
>>have spoken out about the secrets they possessed, such as Corso,
>>Cooper, Dean, and others, I can't seem to remember one of these
>>people ever having suffered the consequences of losing a pension
>>or benefits.

>I don't know that anyone has ever lost a pension, but I have
>talked to retired military people, who say they were threatened
>with such if they taked about some of the things they were
>associated with...

>I once made a trip to Marysville, Kansas to talk with a Retired
>Air Force officer, who allegedly "escorted" a UFO which was having
>mechanical problems...

>However, when I got there, He would not talk to me...It had been
>arranged by a friend of mine who lived in Marysville...Later,
>my friend told me he talked to the man again after I had returned
>home, and he told him he could not risk loosing his pension at
>his advanced age...

I don't think that there's any question that regulations are in
place that would allow for the loss of pension and health
benefits if a security oath is violated.  Depending on the
incident, it might also involve prosecution and imprisonment.

A point was raised yesturday that any prosecution, or denial of
benefits, would serve to validate the statements being made as
true, so that is unlikely to happen when "black projects" (or
UFOs) are involved.  Any breach involving national security at
that level would most likely be handled behind closed doors, and
those involved would be warned to not say anything about it in

All this being said, it also provides someone who is trying to
gain attention (for whatever reason) a convenient excuse as to
why they "can't devulge details", or talk about it with those
who might ask too many questions.  Many people have argued that
one way to get the "truth" out would be to change the
regulations and grant immunity to those who speak out about the
military's involvment with UFOs.  However, I have to wonder if
this will bring forth more valuable information, or perhaps a
different set of reasons as to why they can't talk.

A few thoughts.


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