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Re: Sightings - Czarnik

From: Roger Evans <moviestuff@cyberjunkie.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:34:33 +0000
Fwd Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:39:20 -0500
Subject: Re: Sightings - Czarnik

>From: Michael Christol <mchristo@mindspring.com>
>Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:53:45 -0600
>Fwd Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:44:36 -0500
>Subject: Re: Sightings - Czarnik

>>From: Roger Evans <moviestuff@cyberjunkie.com>
>>Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:12:50 +0000
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>Subject: Re: Sightings - Czarnik

Previously, I had written:

>>To my knowledge, no UFO whistle blower has ever come out with
>>any "secrets" that they can prove; therefore, the powers that be
>>probably would not want to inadvertantly validate such a
>>person's claims by publicly retaliating about something that is
>>not even supposed to exist. In short, the person poses no threat
>>without proof.

Michael responded:

>Remove the word UFO from this post and you have a totally
>different post.

>Rembember the revelation that the US had used radiation on
>pregnant women as well as other peoples in the 1950? Whistle
>blowers have come forth in the past...

Of course, that's why I differentiated this post by using the
term "UFO whistle blowers". I do not believe that I suggested no
whistle blowers of any kind had ever come forth and been
punished for their actions by private corporations.

The difference is that when someone works for a private
corporation and blows a whistle, they can sue the company if
they lose their benefits, assuming they have proof that they
were singled out for retaliation. Therefore, it might be worth
the risk since there is a recourse for the whistle blower.
Sometimes they win, sometimes not. The corporation bean counters
also look at the risk factor to determine if they want to pursue
or settle or just stand back and see what happens.

On the other hand, people working for the government are in a
totally different situation since it's very difficult to
successfully sue the US government for anything, even when you
HAVE proof of wrong doing. Therefore, intimidation tactics and
physical threats are more likely to be used since there's
virtually nothing the victim can do about it. This person is
facing a giant with endless physical, legal and monetary

Relating to the above info you mentioned, is there any record of
these woman's families suing the US government and successfully
getting a judgement? I believe the info was, as you put it, a
revelation since it had been covered up for decades by the
government. I doubt if things have changed much, other than the
government is much better at covering
its tracks.

>However, in regards to UFOs, like you Roger, I don't know of
>any, if we leave out such names as:  William (Bill) English,
>William (Bill) Cooper, Clifford Stone, Robert Dean, Jess
>Marcelle, Col. Phil Corso, Dr. Michael Wolf, Bob Lazar and

>Of course, these are just names and they may or may not have
>actually had proof of what they speak...especially the first
>two...<sorry guys.>

As you point out, these are just names. If there was any
definitive proof that would turn the UFO world on its ear, we'd
be talking about that in this post instead of the current topic.

Finally, I had offered:

>>On the other hand, if someone DID have proof that would be
>>damaging to the powers that be, then it's quite likely that the
>>general public would never be allowed to even hear about that
>>person's existence. In such a case, the whistle blower in
>>question would have much bigger problems that "loss of pension",
>>if you get my drift.

>>Does this answer your question?
>>I really hope not...

Michael's response:

>I would say that you are correct in your assumption here Roger.

Which assumption, Mike?


Roger Evans

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