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Re: Secret USAF 'SETI' Projects?

From: Bob Shell <bob@bobshell.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:57:02 +0000
Fwd Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:31:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Secret USAF 'SETI' Projects?

>From: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>To: "UFO UpDates Subscribers":;
>Subject: UFO UpDate: Re: Secret USAF 'SETI' Projects?
>Date: Thu, Jan 14, 1999, 12:18 AM

>From: Stan Friedman <fsphys@brunnet.net>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Secret USAF 'SETI' Projects?
>Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:00:16 -0400
>If one checks a topographic map one finds that the VLA is a good
>ways West of Socorro in a relatively unique area The Plains of
>San Augustine or San Agustin. It is flatter than a pacncake at
>an altitude over 6500 feet, is surrounded by mountains up to
>10,000 feet and was a lake bed until about 5000 years ago.
>It is a very sparsely inhabited area.
>The land was cheap, flat, and, of great importance, out of reach
>of most radio noise background. Even though I am convinced that
>indeed an alien sapcecraft crashed in the area in July 1947, the
>people I talked to felt it was cheap land in an ideal location
>for listening. There is a Y shaped track with each leg about 12
>miles long.. Catron County was the least populated of all NM

>The Farr Ranch is 120,000 acres.The Plains is about 60miles by
>20 miles with the Continental Divide alongs its Western Edge and
>Magdalena at its NE corner. We saw herds of antelope while
>flying over it in a helicopter.

Most people are familiar with the VLA from the movie Contact.

If any of you are ever in the area, the VLA is worth a visit.
The giant dishes are very impressive, and if you happen to be
there at a time when they are moving them, even more impressive.

There is a nice little museum in the control building with the
complete history of the place and some neat photos from optical

I seriously doubt that those dishes can transmit.  The place is
open to the public, and there is no security to speak of, so if
there was transmitting equipment it would be very hard to hide.

However, that canyon that Jodie Foster goes and sits by in the
movie just does not exist.  The whole place is flat as a

There are pronghorn herds everywhere, as Stan mentions, and I
took a lot of photos of them with telephoto lenses while I was
driving around on the plains.


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