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Re: Military Retirees & Secrecy

From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:13:13 EST
Fwd Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:22:55 -0500
Subject: Re: Military Retirees & Secrecy

>Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:46:28 -0600
>From: Dave Vetterick <veterick@ix.netcom.com>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Re: Military Retirees & Secrecy

>>Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:32:40 -0800
>>From: Judith Dale <judithdale@earthlink.net>
>>To: UFO UpDates-Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>Subject: Military Retirees & Secrecy

>>I have been following the recent discussion regarding the
>>consequences that might occur if a retired military person was
>>to break their secrecy agreement.


>The key thing missing here is..What is the basis for the fear?

>He wouldn't be revealing any secrets, just explaining what he
>was told would be the consequences if he talked, and who told
>him this causing him to think it was credible?

Actually, in some cases, merely telling people that there was an
oath would be revealing a secret.

>From there you can eliminate it as a justifiable fear, and then
>make all sorts of arguments as to why he should talk.

The real problem, as I see it, isn't that the witness is afraid
to talk but believes that revealing specific information would
be a violation of the oath taken forty or fifty years ago. They
don't talk about it because they were told not to talk about it.
They are, for the most part, honorable people who made a promise
that they want to keep.

Edwin Easley, the Roswell Provost Marshal, said that he had
promised the President that he wouldn't talk and he wasn't going
to talk. He always seemed caught in the middle, wanting to help,
but believing that he was under an obligation not to tell. He
offered what he could in the way of information without opening
violating the oath.

It wasn't fear that motivated him but his sense of honor. This
is something that we just don't consider.

>Start with the fact that even the military can't legally
>threaten bodily harm or death without due process. It's almost
>impossible to serve up the death penalty even to convicted mass
>murderers much less for violating a 30 year old oath.

Most of the military people I know signed agreements when they
left the service suggesting they would not reveal what they knew
for five, ten or twelve years. The longest I ever heard about
was twenty years. By that time, it was believed that any special
knowledge would have been rendered obsolete because of time.

These would have been special circumstances, and the rules might
have changed for them.

The real point, however, is that it is not fear that keeps the
people from revealing all, but a belief that a promise is a


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