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Re: Military Retirees & Secrecy

From: Dave Vetterick <veterick@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:19:11 -0600
Fwd Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:32:44 -0500
Subject: Re: Military Retirees & Secrecy


>From: moviestuff@cyberjunkie.com
>Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 19:13:05 +0000
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Military Retirees & Secrecy

>>From: Dave Vetterick <veterick@ix.netcom.com>
>>Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 18:53:01 -0600
>>Fwd Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:28:45 -0500
>>Subject: Re: Military Retirees & Secrecy

>>>Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:50:20 +0000
>>>From: Roger Evans <moviestuff@cyberjunkie.com>
>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>>Subject: Military Retirees & Secrecy

>Previously, Dave offered:

><snip>

>>Roger, no offense, but suggesting the government and military is
>>going to inflict illegal bodily harm over this and could get
>>away with it, as you said they likely did over the Contra
>>dealings, is far fetched and bordering on paranoia in my
>>opinion.

>>Intimidation is a tool, but to suggest in this day and time that
>>the military could threaten anything other than putting a person
>>in Ft. Leavenworth much less illegal bodily harm to a person's
>>family, and get away with it just isn't realistic.

><snip>

>>If I were illegally threatened this way by the military, or any
>>REAL government agency I'd be on CNN and MSNBC within the hour.

>And just what, exactly, would you use to back up your claims,
>Dave?

>I can assure you, you'd find it virtually impossible to get on
>any local news station, much less a network, without some kind
>of proof. Based on my access to the news media, I can tell you
>that people make these claims you are talking about on a regular
>basis and are turned away, just as you would be.

Rest assured I'm aware of this, and agree. Since we're dealing
hypothetically just assume I'd find a way to present proof.

>As I stated before, the problem isn't what the government does
>that we know about and can prove; it's what we don't know about
>and can't prove that is the problem. Now, on balance, it would
>seem a reasonable question that if we don't know about these
>things then how can I support my position? Well, as I said, my
>father had film and tapes confiscated MANY times over the course
>of his 45 years in television news. Unless my father and the
>other field engineers he worked with are lying, then I'd say
>this is more than "far fetched and bordering on paranoia".

I don't doubt you. However, if the confiscation were
madeillegally without a court order or making the film to start
with wasn't violating some legal restriction, it wouldn't have
happened the second time without my taking legal action.

<snip>

If I am conducting myself in a just and legal fashion there is
NO WAY I will tolerate illegal actions taken against me by any
group or individual.

The mess Clinton has himself in is evidence enough our system of
justice works albeit slow and ponderous.

You are quite right, I do not fear the Government. If one
doesn't violate the laws of the land there is no reason to.
Anything else in my opinion is not rational.

Dave Vetterick


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