From: Josh Goldstein <clearlt@pacbell.net>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 01:20:11 -0800
Fwd Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:18:29 -0500
Subject: Re: R.A.M.S. - A Parting Shot?


>Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 14:57:46 +0000
>From: Robert A. M. Stephens <sti3818@montana.com>
>To: UFO Updates Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Release-For Post

>Please post far and wide.

>One Last Little Item From The 'Fraud' Robert A.M. Stephens

>Hello everyone. Since it has been universally disclosed and
>concluded that I am a fake and a charlatan and a liar---in
>essence,  a Fraud, it should be fitting to close the last
>final chapter on this debacle in true, revealing fashion in
>the same venue as my undoing was set in motion.

>So, with that fact stated, that last little item is still
>those vexing 199 remaining questions I was invited to debate
>with Richard C. Hoagland, esteemed plank owner of The
>Enterprise Mission, but was deprived from asking.


Mr. Robert A.M. Stepehens:

What is your real motivation for your proposed debate with
Mr.Hoagland? Anyone who studies Ufology and can think for
himself already is well aware of Mr."Mars face" Hoagland's self
delusions. Any regular listeners of Art Bell who still believe
anything Hoagland says have their own sets of problems. I don't
think anyone can illuminate their dimness. Are you trying to
prop up your wounded ego vs. Art Bell?

In a recent post announcing your resurrection you claimed that
many people have posted you with links, etc. that support the
truth of your claims. What I would rather see you do is to post
on this list the truth behind your UFO related claims and the
sources of that truth so they may be verified in a forum of
bonafide researchers. I don't want to sound crude but perhaps
you are familiar with the phrase 'put-up or shut-up'? So how
about putting-up so you can gain some credibility? That would
serve your credibility more than a debate with people like
Hoagland.

Josh